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Thread: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Muhammed a Crime? [W:636]

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    re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Muhammed a Crime? [W:636]

    Quote Originally Posted by Klown View Post
    You are of course correct in the emphasis contained in my posts
    But as you may agree, the major problems on the planet stem from US militarism and imperialism dating back to the end of WW2.
    It was called the Cold War.
    Alas, alot of people's rights got trampled on, but it did, and still does, protect the planet in general. NOT the place for a longer explanation.

    Quote Originally Posted by klown
    If you look at the history of the USA, it was once a nation that was one of the most respected and admired nations.
    Have you noticed that my emphasis is on US foreign policy and corporate corruption globally. I have worked in the USA and travelled through most its regions - I have no issues with American people generally - just as I dont have any issues with people from Chile or Italy.
    Being Australian, I direct the same criticisms towards my own nation when it has commited identical crimes and engages in similar corrupt pratices on the world stage
    My own feelings on what is happening in the USA is that many citizens are beginning to wake up to what their government is doing and who it is on behalf of.
    You have a long road ahead to regain your freedom and great US constitution which has been trashed without the peoples permission
    What I've noticed is that your posts are typical but out-of-control Leftism and you can't discuss any topic whatsoever without Gratuitously (and Off Topc) dragging in USA "Fascism", or overblown Iraq War numbers (most of which are Muslims killing other-sect Muslims btw, re-enforcing My point), etc.
    Which has Nothing do with this string.. or others.
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    re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Muhammed a Crime? [W:636]

    Quote Originally Posted by Klown View Post
    Have you noticed that my emphasis is on US foreign policy
    What I have noticed is that you toss around extraordinarily stupid and childish buzz phrases without even an inkling of understanding as to what they mean.
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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Mohammed a Crime?

    Maybe not focused on one certain religion, but anything disparaging on any religion to be punishable.
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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Mohammed a Crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    You know what's interesting, G? Nobody seem interested at all in understanding why the guy who made the film did it, or why he holds those "vile" opinions he does. If he's truly a Coptic Christian, that might just be a clue.



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    Why is it, a large mob of people can storm an embassy, damage property and kill people over a film (supposedly) and some people will go out of their way to understand their motives, and suggest punishment for those who dare insult them, yet those same people are often completely content to just vilify the maker of the film (whose done nothing more than make a film) without so much as a passing curiosity as to his reasons?

    I have a couple of customers with whom I chat quite often, and they left Egypt for that very reason. They were persecuted by the Muslim majority quite ruthlessly.

    It's funny, but when I was a teenager, liberals understood the need to protect the minority from persecute the tyranny of the majority. Today's illiberal leftists, however, do little but defend the huge majority as it persecutes any minority that gets in its path -- as long as they perceive this majority as non white, mind you.
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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Mohammed a Crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    Maybe not focused on one certain religion, but anything disparaging on any religion to be punishable.
    Then would this also include those Religions that have come and gone? Moreover if you cannot have disparaging remarks. Then there should be no Glorifying Remarks either.....just as you cannot grow an Apple without it's Core.....Right?

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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Mohammed a Crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Klown View Post
    It could create a legal precedence

    Perhaps a new law making it illegal to criticize anything Iceland does as a nation - punishable by death.

    Anti-Icelandic hatred cannot be tolerated in a functioning fascist corpocracy such as the USA.

    (good luck with the supreme court overturning, I have it from a very secure source in the USA that the media, congress, banks and legal system are all controlled by you know who)
    Jeez, I'd picked up that you are a radical, but I didn't have you down as a hypocrite until now. You talk about the USA being a fascist corporatocracy then go a trot out stuff like I've highlighted that could be a straight quote from Mein Kampf. You're either mindless, misguided or malign, or would you like to take this opportunity to apologise?
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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Mohammed a Crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    You're either mindless, misguided or malign
    Would I be out of line were I to point out your potential misuse of mutually exclusive trichotomies?
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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Mohammed a Crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Would I be out of line were I to point out your potential misuse of mutually exclusive trichotomies?
    Knock yourself out, beat yourself up or get the f**k out.
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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Mohammed a Crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Let me comment on the hate speech bit that was brought up earlier. The point about hate speech or fighting words is that they are calculated to bring about a violent reaction. That was the intent. From what I understand, this film was not meant as real academic critique. It was instead an insult, founded mainly in the religious bigotry of the creator. If he created a benign film, and the reaction was surprising and not at all what he intended to happen, then he has done nothing wrong. If instead he intentionally crafted an inflammatory and insulting piece, with no purpose other than to degrade and hurt people, then he is responsible for the current situation, and should be held accountable. Intent matters. No extra laws are necessary in this situation. We already hold people accountable for their calculated acts (including speech) that were intended to provoke a violent reaction.
    No, what's prohibited are "fighting words", not "hate speech", whatever the hell that might be. You can't scream insults at a mob on the verge of violence because there's a legitimate public interest in averting violence. It's never been suggested that you couldn't speak if somehow, your words would get back to a person on the other side of the planet and incite that person to violence.

    Prohibiting fighting words is entirely different from prohibiting speech because apprehension exists that someone on Planet Earth may be offended and act out violently. I'd like to remind you that while the film that incited this week's riots may have no artistic value to you, Salmon Rhusdie's novel, "Midnight's Children", for which he was sentenced to death by the Ayatollah, went on to win the Pulitzer in the US and the Booker in Great Britain.

    I don't think the US should stop being the US to give comfort to people who are severely repressed, live in a theocracy and fail to satisfy most Americans' ideas of fundamental human rights. I don't think we should surrender our freedoms to buy a temporary pause in violence that has been going on all my life.

    What I think should happen instead is, more nations should embrace real freedom and just so they know it when they see it, I say we continue to serve as the best example of that.


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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Mohammed a Crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Knock yourself out, beat yourself up or get the f**k out.
    Can't I just repeat the out, up, and out until my rhetoric finds its proper release?
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