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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Mohammed a Crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    I'm not saying it's legally incitement. But to say that nobody knew this would happen...I mean, come on...

    South Park and Family Guy routinely offend all religions. Nice try to make this about the horrible persecution you are under as a white Christian male.
    Sure, we know Muslims are idiots and can't control themselves, right? We all knew what would happen.
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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Mohammed a Crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Klown View Post
    I do agree with you on this point.

    I notice that the state of California has introduced new laws which make any criticism of Israel as anti-Semitic that can result in a jail sentence.

    You must be utterly furious at this legal development?
    I'm in California. Screw Israel.
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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Mohammed a Crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Your basing your understanding of the word "incitement" upon the primitive reactions rather than anything actually qualifiable indicates you really do not understand what the word means - -especially from a legal standpoint.

    Good grief -- South Park, Family Guy and other MAINSTREAM media here routinely offend Christians. I would suggest you call for the arrest of the writers and producers and see how far you get.


    So are the Religious Sunni Clerics to be held responsible?

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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Mohammed a Crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    So are the Religious Sunni Clerics to be held responsible?
    We cannot do anything about the incitement overseas, but if you want to find some actual incitement, that's where you should look.
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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Mohammed a Crime?




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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Mohammed a Crime?

    Saw this posted on Facebook a few days ago…

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    I don't know that the quote is genuine, but it is certainly true, and it is certainly relevant to this controversy. There is no safety in trying to appease evil savages who barely qualify as “human”; and no reason why the rights of civilized people should be abridged in even the least way in a futile attempt to do so.
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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Mohammed a Crime?



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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Mohammed a Crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Let me comment on the hate speech bit that was brought up earlier. The point about hate speech or fighting words is that they are calculated to bring about a violent reaction. That was the intent. From what I understand, this film was not meant as real academic critique. It was instead an insult, founded mainly in the religious bigotry of the creator. If he created a benign film, and the reaction was surprising and not at all what he intended to happen, then he has done nothing wrong. If instead he intentionally crafted an inflammatory and insulting piece, with no purpose other than to degrade and hurt people, then he is responsible for the current situation, and should be held accountable. Intent matters. No extra laws are necessary in this situation. We already hold people accountable for their calculated acts (including speech) that were intended to provoke a violent reaction.
    The problem here is what makes Islam special? No religion is free from ridicule, and the criticisms of every religion has been cruel and extremely harsh. Why should Islam get a pass? Because they have oversensitive murderers willing to cut the heads off of anyone who says an unkind word about their prophet? **** them. The majority of the human population has to deal with bigotry and prejudice in one form or another, radical Islam isn't special, and appeasing them by suppressing the freedom of speech is simply not an option.
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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Mohammed a Crime?

    I'm coming off the fence and voting a resounding "no".

    As the internet gets bigger and bigger, with billions of people from all over the world posting all kinds of things 24/7/365, if the ignorant a-holes in certain countries can't get over their own petty issues with what others do, they're never going to have enough time to kill all the people they hate.

    I just wish we could bring all American diplomats and soldiers home so they are not the targets of such stupidity and ignorance.

    We really do need to shut off all aide and remove all people in service to America from countries that have groups that behave that way.


    It's a cryin shame that phuck-sticks in America can put the lives of other Americans at risk for such frivolous trash.

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    re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Muhammed a Crime? [W:636]

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Simple question (I hope it's obvious I mean the Prophet Muhammed, I just couldn't include that in the title due to space limitations)?
    Ummm, no. People need to grow up and accept that not everyone agrees with them, or perceives God as the same entity they envision it to be, or *not to be*, and that there is nothing wrong with disagreement in belief systems. One's god is a very personal thing, and if you're not secure enough with it, to keep from feeling offended or insecure when someone ridicules your beliefs, then your belief and/or faith should probably be questioned by you, yourself.
    "God is the name by which I designate all things which cross my path violently and recklessly, all things which alter my plans and intentions, and change the course of my life, for better or for worse."
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