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Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?


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They can be fired and replaced.
Right now there are plenty of people willing to take a job away from some workers that are complaining to much.

And guess what happens to scabs...................LMAO

History repeats itself......you didnt learn....you didnt listen.......(song)
 
And guess what happens to scabs...................LMAO

History repeats itself......you didnt learn....you didnt listen.......(song)
Yah they bring the cops and have you arrested if you lay a hand on any of them. And if you try anything where a cop can’t see you get shot by the guy that has a conceal and carry license.
 
Only to a more fair point but yes. The current system favors the super rich way too much.

The words "fair" or "fairness" are meaningless to use to decide any real figure.
 
Yah they bring the cops and have you arrested if you lay a hand on any of them. And if you try anything where a cop can’t see you get shot by the guy that has a conceal and carry license.

Then we shoot all the cops and all the goons with guns that are traitors to thier class........

Ludlow massacre
"In retaliation for Ludlow, the miners armed themselves and attacked dozens of mines over the next ten days, destroying property and engaging in several skirmishes with the Colorado National Guard along a 40-mile front from Trinidad to Walsenburg"

How about this to prevent al l that........... you follow the NLRA. But we know you have not for the last 30 years....

But if the trans national rich want to make slaves of US Citizens, they will be sorly sorry.

To really solve the problem we need a law like mexico has.
Crossing a pickline is a felony.
 
comedy4all said:
The poor are not poor because they got stolen from. They are poor because they keep doing the things that made them poor.
The rich are not rich because they stole their money from the poor. They are rich because the keep doing the things that made them rich.

Theft is theft no matter what you call it.

First, who said anything about this? I didn't bring it up. I was just discussing the general principle that:

1) Distribution of wealth simply refers to the actual distribution of wealth, not the rightful or just distribution of wealth.

2) If wealth is distributed unjustly, clearly redistribution is the right action.

Would you not agree with this principle? It seems pretty clear-cut to me. But if I'm right, redistribution of wealth, in itself, is not unjust or morally wrong. Which means, in turn, that your first reply to my question is false. Redistribution of wealth is not always theft.

Second, I disagree with your assessment of poverty and wealth in our society. But you're doing nothing other than asserting. What sorts of arguments can you bring in support of your position?
 
well, here in the good ol USA.. despite the ramblings of the far left and right... the working class and the capital class go hand in hand... both rely on each other.... as goes one, so goes the other

Not really, it is entirely possible to have growth with large unemployment these days. You do not need to make anything to make money, or you do not need to make anything in AMERICA to make money.
 
No republican I know wants people to stay in poverty and dependent on the government.

You should probably get to know the ones in office then.
 
Then we shoot all the cops and all the goons with guns that are traitors to thier class........

Ludlow massacre
"In retaliation for Ludlow, the miners armed themselves and attacked dozens of mines over the next ten days, destroying property and engaging in several skirmishes with the Colorado National Guard along a 40-mile front from Trinidad to Walsenburg"

How about this to prevent al l that........... you follow the NLRA. But we know you have not for the last 30 years....

But if the trans national rich want to make slaves of US Citizens, they will be sorly sorry.

To really solve the problem we need a law like mexico has.
Crossing a pickline is a felony.
Unions are outdated thugs that are the true source of greed. We do not fear thugs, we burry them.
 
Unions are outdated thugs that are the true source of greed. We do not fear thugs, we burry them.

Thugs are CEO's that make billions and refuse to give a 3% raise. Or illegally terminate leaders or any of the other litany of crimes they commit.

latest crime of the CEO, they collect AND KEEP state taxes paid by the workers in 19 states.

Only thing OUTDATED is capitalism that needs TRILLIONS ever few years in printed money to feed the greed.
 
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The 99%. :2razz:

As a member of the intellectual class, I'd put my money on the 1%. I must, commies always kill us after they win.
 
First, who said anything about this? I didn't bring it up. I was just discussing the general principle that:

1) Distribution of wealth simply refers to the actual distribution of wealth, not the rightful or just distribution of wealth.

2) If wealth is distributed unjustly, clearly redistribution is the right action.

Would you not agree with this principle? It seems pretty clear-cut to me. But if I'm right, redistribution of wealth, in itself, is not unjust or morally wrong. Which means, in turn, that your first reply to my question is false. Redistribution of wealth is not always theft.

Second, I disagree with your assessment of poverty and wealth in our society. But you're doing nothing other than asserting. What sorts of arguments can you bring in support of your position?
Wealth is not distributed, it is created. You are not given wealth, you make it. Money is not distributed to you, you either earn it or you steal it.
 
Thugs are CEO's that make billions and refuse to give a 3% raise. Or illegally terminate leaders or any of the other litany of crimes they commit.

latest crime of the CEO, they collect AND KEEP state taxes paid by the workers in 19 states.

Only thing OUTDATED is capitalism that needs TRILLIONS ever few years in printed money to feed the greed.

Capitalism isn't outdated. It's the best economic system we have for the time being. If you'd prefer to substitute your own, please do so.
 
Yah they bring the cops and have you arrested if you lay a hand on any of them. And if you try anything where a cop can’t see you get shot by the guy that has a conceal and carry license.

No, we already have done this in our history and there is no need to revisit those barbaric practices of the labor war. Unions came into existence because of a necessity for unions. They exist today largely as corrupt organizations bent on money and power....just like the government. And just like the government, you can't exactly do away with them as there is a base need and functionality for them.
 
comedy4all said:
Wealth is not distributed, it is created. You are not given wealth, you make it. Money is not distributed to you, you either earn it or you steal it.

I can think of a few problems with this, but I'll respond to the one I think is most critical: why does this in any way rule out that the rich (which I take to mean, all or most rich people) in our society didn't steal from the poor? You said it yourself: you either earn wealth, or you steal it. Nothing in your statement precludes the possibility that the rich, or at least some rich people, stole their wealth.
 
Actually, the president and many many more wan the rich in this country to start paying their dues like everybody else. You talk about a free ride.
 
First, who said anything about this? I didn't bring it up. I was just discussing the general principle that:

1) Distribution of wealth simply refers to the actual distribution of wealth, not the rightful or just distribution of wealth.

2) If wealth is distributed unjustly, clearly redistribution is the right action.

Would you not agree with this principle? It seems pretty clear-cut to me. But if I'm right, redistribution of wealth, in itself, is not unjust or morally wrong. Which means, in turn, that your first reply to my question is false. Redistribution of wealth is not always theft.

Second, I disagree with your assessment of poverty and wealth in our society. But you're doing nothing other than asserting. What sorts of arguments can you bring in support of your position?

Who decides what constitutes "rightful or just" distribution of wealth, and what is their basis for doing so?
 
Diogenes said:
Who decides what constitutes "rightful or just" distribution of wealth, and what is their basis for doing so?

Now, there's a serious question. I'm not sure. I don't think mere contracts do. Nor am I entirely convinced that theft would always lead to unjust distribution. But, I think any answers to this question will involve some arbitrariness.
 
Now, there's a serious question. I'm not sure. I don't think mere contracts do. Nor am I entirely convinced that theft would always lead to unjust distribution. But, I think any answers to this question will involve some arbitrariness.

I suggest that "willing buyer, willing seller" goes a long way toward settling the question.
 
Jill Stein literally wants to redistribute wealth. She supports a "living wage", AKA giving people $20,000 a year to sit on their asses.

That's why I'm angry at the green party.
 
Jill Stein literally wants to redistribute wealth. She supports a "living wage", AKA giving people $20,000 a year to sit on their asses.

That's why I'm angry at the green party.

Could you explain that? I am not familiar with Jill Stein.
 
Jill Stein literally wants to redistribute wealth. She supports a "living wage", AKA giving people $20,000 a year to sit on their asses.

That's why I'm angry at the green party.


Jill Stein won the Green Party nomination???

I guess I won't be able to vote for Roseanne Barr this November.
 
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