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Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

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Don't think Obama does, I know he does.

Obama, 1998:

 
Thrilla said:
you are incorrect yet again.

keeping more of your own money is not a transfer payment... no how, no way.
having more money taken from you is no a transfer payment either.
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You are starting from a flawed premise that all of your money is YOURS. Sorry...but living in America isn't free. There are costs to pay for the advantages that this great country gives us.
Why is it that the wealthy always expect everything for free?
 
disneydude said:
You are starting from a flawed premise that all of your money is YOURS. Sorry...but living in America isn't free. There are costs to pay for the advantages that this great country gives us.
Why is it that the wealthy always expect everything for free?
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You have made a lot of ridiculous posts iduring your time in DP but this one takes the cake....Who the hell do you think pays most of the income tax in this country..........Give me a ****ing clue..........
 
Navy Pride said:
You have made a lot of ridiculous posts iduring your time in DP but this one takes the cake....Who the hell do you think pays most of the income tax in this country..........Give me a ****ing clue..........
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Certainly not who you have been led to believe by your right-wing radio fools. Most of the income tax in this country is paid by the middle class. Guess again.
 
disneydude said:
Certainly not who you have been led to believe by your right-wing radio fools. Most of the income tax in this country is paid by the middle class. Guess again.
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ass usual you are drinking the left wing koolaid.
It sure is fun proving you wrong.

Who Pays the Most Income Tax?



According to the Office of Tax Analysis, the U.S. individual income tax is "highly progressive," with a small group of higher-income taxpayers paying most of the individual income taxes each year.

National Taxpayers Union - Who Pays Income Taxes?
 
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Navy Pride said:
ass usual you are drinking the left wing koolaid.
It sure is fun proving you wrong.

Who Pays the Most Income Tax?



According to the Office of Tax Analysis, the U.S. individual income tax is "highly progressive," with a small group of higher-income taxpayers paying most of the individual income taxes each year.
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Oops. You two are arguing two different things.
 
Navy Pride said:
What do you think and why would he want to do that?
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Of course he wants to redistribute wealth...just as Reagan wanted to redistribute the wealth of the nation. It seems as if you're problem isn't the redistribution of wealth as much as the direction of the redistribution.
 
Hare said:
It's called progressive taxation, and has been a staple of economic policy for decades. Nothing revolutionary or radical at play, especially when considering the proposed hike would still reside well below rates that were implemented throughout the latter half of the 20th century.
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A progressive tax system and wealth redistribution are different things though.

I think the idea of a progressive tax system is silly but a country can have one without the end goal being to take money from one group of people and give it to another. For all the talk about Republican "extremism" in the news, Democrats have certainly left the concepts of "ask not what your country can do for you" and "workfare" for "where is my!@#$ing money?!" and "I have a right not to work!" awfully fast.
 
disneydude said:
Certainly not who you have been led to believe by your right-wing radio fools. Most of the income tax in this country is paid by the middle class. Guess again.
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That's just not even remotely true and I just don't understand how this myth persists.
 
Navy Pride said:
ass usual you are drinking the left wing koolaid.
It sure is fun proving you wrong.

Who Pays the Most Income Tax?



According to the Office of Tax Analysis, the U.S. individual income tax is "highly progressive," with a small group of higher-income taxpayers paying most of the individual income taxes each year.

National Taxpayers Union - Who Pays Income Taxes?
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Yes....it IS progressive NP....however, most of the wealthy are able to avoid paying taxes in the same manner than Romney has, by offshore accounts in the Cayman islands and Swiss bank accounts. They also manipulate the system with all kinds of write offs, most which the middle class cannot take advantage of.
 
disneydude said:
Yes....it IS progressive NP....however, most of the wealthy are able to avoid paying taxes in the same manner than Romney has, by offshore accounts in the Cayman islands and Swiss bank accounts. They also manipulate the system with all kinds of write offs, most which the middle class cannot take advantage of.
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Left wing talking points to take the subject off the failed Obama presidency...........They can't defend their policy on the issues because they suck.
 
Donahue said:
That's just not even remotely true and I just don't understand how this myth persists.
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sadly he thinks if you say it enough time that people will believe it. He believes the Amerrican voter is stupid.
 
StillBallin75 said:
If the answer were yes, it'd make him no different from the likes of economists such as Milton Friedman, who supported a NEGATIVE income tax in conjunction with his flat tax proposal. Chew on that for a minute.
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What have you been chewing on since the video surfaced where Obama as a senator admitted he wanted to rdistribute wealth?
 
How can anyone vote no and be honest about it. When he claims the rich need to "pay their fair share" and they already are paying close to half the federal income taxes and all the death taxes, he clearly is pushing for redistribution of income
 
Yes - back to those that create it......the workers
 
274ina said:
Yes - back to those that create it......the workers
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Workers? Did the workers invest their own money to build the factory/plant/build, to hire the HR staff, the managers, the attorneys, the accountants, the workers... the materials, the tools (computers, equipment...) Do the workers pay the taxes on the facilities, get the permits to open said business...

Businesses exist to earn a profit for those with a vested interest in said Business. The investors. This is reality.
 
That's a rhetorical question, right? He's already been shown on video making that very statement, i.e. he wants to redistribute the wealth in this country.
And as any other "socialist", by attempting to circumvent the U.S. Constitution as with his "Obama Care." Remember this always, he has never EVER actually held a job in the normal and traditional sense of that word. He's an academic who graduated law school, never practiced law, filled a position as a community organizer, which was probably taxpayer funded and then went to D.C. to be a politician. What "work" or "job" has he ever had? None. He's lived off of public support from his inception. That and demonstrating early on during his academic years, he professes that those who he considers wealthy somehow have an absolute obligation to share their wealth with those of lesser means: either through moral guilt or political edict. That comes straight out the "Communist Manifesto" by Karl Marx. You can't more anti-American-captialistic than that!
 
TurtleDude said:
How can anyone vote no and be honest about it. When he claims the rich need to "pay their fair share" and they already are paying close to half the federal income taxes and all the death taxes, he clearly is pushing for redistribution of income
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Yeah, isn't that wonderful!
 
MrVicchio said:
Workers? Did the workers invest their own money to build the factory/plant/build, to hire the HR staff, the managers, the attorneys, the accountants, the workers... the materials, the tools (computers, equipment...) Do the workers pay the taxes on the facilities, get the permits to open said business...

Businesses exist to earn a profit for those with a vested interest in said Business. The investors. This is reality.
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Indirectly they do. Without the workers there would not only be no businesses and no consumers to buy the product. Don't forget what Henry Ford said.

The social darwinists are trying to kill the goose that layedd the golden egg.
 
LiberalAvenger said:
Indirectly they do. Without the workers there would not only be no businesses and no consumers to buy the product. Don't forget what Henry Ford said.

The social darwinists are trying to kill the goose that layedd the golden egg.
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well, here in the good ol USA.. despite the ramblings of the far left and right... the working class and the capital class go hand in hand... both rely on each other.... as goes one, so goes the other
 
Thrilla said:
well, here in the good ol USA.. despite the ramblings of the far left and right... the working class and the capital class go hand in hand... both rely on each other.... as goes one, so goes the other
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That's what I have been saying.:2bow: The Republicans look upon workers as pawns in their world chess game.
 
LiberalAvenger said:
That's what I have been saying.:2bow: The Republicans look upon workers as pawns in their world chess game.
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you might believe as much.. but y'all do a poor job of communicating that sentiment.

the class warfare of today is palpable and very ugly... and the 2 major parties , and their adherents, are all guilty of waging it.

it's just as wrong to attack the rich as it is to attack the poor... especially when the attacks are based up on misapplied statistics and stereotypes.
 
LiberalAvenger said:
Indirectly they do. Without the workers there would not only be no businesses and no consumers to buy the product. Don't forget what Henry Ford said.

The social darwinists are trying to kill the goose that layedd the golden egg.
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Social Darwnist? Really?


Socialist thus I label you.
 
LiberalAvenger said:
That's what I have been saying.:2bow: The Republicans look upon workers as pawns in their world chess game.
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Replace the word republicans with politician and your statement would me more correct. It’s not just the republicans the democrats use what they call “useful idiots” all the time.
 
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