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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    If only it were that simple. The problem is, good intentions don't count. The Democrats want to spend a lot of money on stupid **** that will make our country worse. There is no good and evil in policy, only good and bad, and both main parties are dominated by bad ideas.
    Amen....and a hallelujah! thrown in for good measure.

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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?


    no, i'm not gonna use a calculator at Barackobama.com.

    and to be honest, i don't care about the middle class.. or the lower class.. or the upper class.. or the uber upper class.
    I don't care about your taxes, or his taxes, or her taxes, or their taxes.

    I care about MY taxes.

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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aberration View Post
    There's no fact in there to try and refute. It's one long talking point with nothing to substantiate it.

    But people like you don't need that. Which is why talking points are used so much.
    that is the best you can do? It is fact ... Are you unaware of the

    Medicare Fraud Reform

    http://www.healthreform.gov/affordab...t_summary.html

    and

    Making Work Pay

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/beltway/...ay-tax-credit/

    Since our anemic economy still needs a boost, why not reverse course and bring back the MWP in a bulked-up form? That step would provide more powerful macro medicine for 2012.

    A quick review: MWP provided a credit in 2009 and 2010 of 6.2 percent of earnings up to $400 for singles and twice that for couples. It phased out between $75,000 and $95,000 of income (twice that range for couples). That meant that most of the tax savings went to low- and middle-income workers, the group most likely to spend rather than save the extra cash.

    Will bigger paychecks bring a better economy?
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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    It absolutely is true.

    If you want to abolish corporate taxes altogether, fine, whatever. But when you're using the tax code to accomplish what in another time would be had with a direct hand-out, you are engaging in subsidy. And when you penalize the competitiveness of one business to the benefit of another, you are engaging in redistribution.
    no... it is not wealth redistribution.. end of story.

    there is no transfer of wealth in any of your examples.. ergo, it's not wealth redistribution.

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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post

    and to be honest, i don't care about the middle class.. or the lower class.. or the upper class.. or the uber upper class.
    I don't care about your taxes, or his taxes, or her taxes, or their taxes.

    I care about MY taxes.
    At least YOU are honest.

    Clearly you and Romney have something in common!

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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    If only it were that simple. The problem is, good intentions don't count. The Democrats want to spend a lot of money on stupid **** that will make our country worse. There is no good and evil in policy, only good and bad, and both main parties are dominated by bad ideas.
    Again, I respectfully disagree. It's never bad policy to educate our youth. It's TERRIBLE to turn the education of our youth over to corporate interests. Corporations, despite what Romney says, ARE NOT PEOPLE, and thus have no stake in furthering the cause of Americans. They should not be running our prisons, they should not be running our wars. In fact, they should not be controlling OUR oil. They should not be making money betting AGAINST us.

    It's unbelievable to me that given the stark differences between the parties, one could ever land on the republican side. Do people really understand what our country was founded upon? It was founded upon opportunity, which republicans want to deny to everyone who hasn't yet made it. Do you really think a ghetto kid has the same opportunity as a rich kid?

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    my federal taxes don't go to schools...... they go to, primarily, benefits for the disadvantaged and the military.
    the Dept of Education has yet to educate one single child... not one!

    Obama has no say in my property taxes, so you are launching a red herring here... (property taxes pay for schools)

    and really.. look at your choices.. either "privatize" or "improve".... as if they are opposites or something
    (you'll really like Warren BUffets latest "theory" ... making private schools illegal.... it fits the liberal/progressive/statist agenda to a T)
    School lunches are funded by the fed. Is that a problem?

    I certainly don't think private schools should be illegal, my kids, and I, went to catholic schools. Great education. I do think that legacy admissions to university should be outlawed, and applications should be judged without name, gender, name of school or anything but SAT/ACT scores and high school involvement, and of course, the obligatory essay.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    Again, I respectfully disagree. It's never bad policy to educate our youth.
    Depends on what we're teaching them. I've never begrudged having to pay for the public schools, but I've never seen anything to change my opinion that my children will never see the inside of one. It isn't enough to educate them, we have to educate them well-- which costs money, yes, but which also requires that money be spent judiciously in service to sound principles.

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    It's TERRIBLE to turn the education of our youth over to corporate interests. Corporations, despite what Romney says, ARE NOT PEOPLE, and thus have no stake in furthering the cause of Americans. They should not be running our prisons, they should not be running our wars. In fact, they should not be controlling OUR oil. They should not be making money betting AGAINST us.
    Agree with all this, except I don't see a problem with for-profit education as long as the education is the product-- I'm only interested in keeping the corporations out of the schools when the corporations are acting in a non-educational capacity.

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    Do you really think a ghetto kid has the same opportunity as a rich kid?
    No. Do you really think it's possible for him to? How much money are you willing to spend on something that can never happen?

    Not to mention, of course, that it was left-wing social policies that created the ghettoes in the first place-- and left-wing policies that are continuing to sustain them.

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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    Depends on what we're teaching them. I've never begrudged having to pay for the public schools, but I've never seen anything to change my opinion that my children will never see the inside of one. It isn't enough to educate them, we have to educate them well-- which costs money, yes, but which also requires that money be spent judiciously in service to sound principles.



    Agree with all this, except I don't see a problem with for-profit education as long as the education is the product-- I'm only interested in keeping the corporations out of the schools when the corporations are acting in a non-educational capacity.



    No. Do you really think it's possible for him to? How much money are you willing to spend on something that can never happen?

    Not to mention, of course, that it was left-wing social policies that created the ghettoes in the first place-- and left-wing policies that are continuing to sustain them.
    That last comment is pure baloney, or bologna, if you will. How so, Viktyr? Which admins have tried to limit redlining? Which admins have tried to provide early childhood education?

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dion View Post
    Oh I know that and do ... yet the track back missed.
    uh huh.. sure.

    Now ... lets here your refute!
    refute what?... talking points?

    Do you think all POTUS reside over the budget and if by doing so are they redistributing?
    I don't really understand what you are asking here.
    but no, Obama doesn't "reside" over a budget... we haven't had a budget for years... your Democratic congressional leadership won't allow one.
    yes, the federal government redistributes 100's of billions of dollars every year.

    Do you disagree with this tax reform?
    yes, I disagree with his tax reform.
    1st, it's not reform... it's the same **** i've been seeing for over 50 years... a few rates are modified, a few favorable tax codes entered for those guys, a few taken out for those guys.. blablabla
    this "tax reform" is like calling my changing of the underwear every morning " underwear reform".. nutting special, nothing to get all giddy about.
    personally, my taxes increased... but i knew that would happen under a Dem or Rep, because there isn't a lick of difference between them when it comes to confiscating wealth.

    Do you think trickle down economics works?
    not a fan of any scheme that focuses on only 1 side of a 2 sided equation.... whether that be "trickle down" or "trickle up", you can count me out.

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