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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    well, they don't... you are buying the koolaid without checking to see if it's tasty and true.

    the "disadvantaged" rarely, if ever, pay for anything having to do with government.... that is simple fact.
    it's even rare that the disadvantaged have benefits cut or reduced... extremely rare.

    the most that you can accurately say is that their benefits don't grow as fast as they do at other times...or in the case of SS, they have to wait longer to collect.
    but the idiotic campaign rhetoric you are parroting is simply false.

    iuf anyone should be bitchin, it should be me... watching as the government is transformed into one bigass handout factory of bloated wasteful behavior... watching as a government provides incentives for sloth, greed, thievery,and unproductive behavior ...of rich and poor alike.
    democrats and republicans have very little to whine about, overall... y'all get everything you want from mommy government, and it's all paid for from the magical money tree that grows out behind the Mint.. y'all whine about the poor needing this, the rich needing that, the minorities needing this, the spotted owl needing that..wants. needs, and desires are covered... and not a one of you has figured out how to pay for them all.
    I know how to pay for it. Raise the ss cap to 250k, raise taxes on the wealthiest among us, and cut waste. That doesn't mean ignoring the environment in favor of polluting business, either. The solution, I believe, is actually quite easy. We need a president who is beholden to NO ONE. That means campaign finance reform, and any self respecting republican would rather cut his dick off that allow that.

    As hard as the republicans try, they will never convince the country that they Want the best for country, because they don't. They want the best for themselves. Dems, on the other, want the best for everyone, wealthy included. Ask who loves our country, it ain't the people who funnel their money to the caymans.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    when quoting directly from a source, you are required to give the link..else it's considered plagarism.

    here.. i'll do it for you.

    Taxes — President Obama’s Record — Barack Obama

    Oh I know that and do ... yet the track back missed.

    Now ... lets here your refute!

    Do you think all POTUS reside over the budget and if by doing so are they redistributing?

    Do you disagree with this tax reform?

    Do you think trickle down economics works?
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    Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Damn you Thrilla!
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    Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dion View Post
    Oh I know that and do ... yet the track back missed.

    Now ... lets here your refute!
    There's no fact in there to try and refute. It's one long talking point with nothing to substantiate it.

    But people like you don't need that. Which is why talking points are used so much.
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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    It absolutely is, when 'justice' has no basis in sound economic principles and will only contribute to greater hardship.

    Before he passed away, my father told me a story about when he was a schoolboy. The schools were holding fundraisers, gathering up nickels and dimes, in order to free the Christian slaves in the Sudan. The idea was, they'd take this money into Africa and buy as many slaves as they could and set them free. They discontinued this program in short order when they discovered that the number of slave raids and slaves taken had more than tripled almost overnight-- it turns out the slavers liked good American money.

    Read in the news recently that some townships are considering 'solving' the housing crisis through eminent domain: people in underwater houses would apply for assistance, and the government would use eminent domain to seize the property from the bank-- at current market value-- and sell it back to the homeowner at a reduced rate. I'll leave it to your imagination what this is going to do to the housing market if it ever actually happens.

    The problem with 'social justice' is that it is applying moral principles to amoral systems. The economy isn't a social institution, it's the jungle and the law of the jungle can not be denied; panthers that refuse to eat bunny rabbits starve.



    Sure. Hell, I've seen studies that say every dollar we put in the public schools is worth three dollars of tax revenue. I'm not opposed to investing in infrastructure and education and human services-- I'm just opposed to the typically idiotic left-wing way of screwing those things up.
    So all ideas are not equal, I'll give you that. But when one party wants to privatize education, and the other wants to improve it, who do vote for? Don't fool yourself into thinking that that republicans are thrifty, you know Bush's record. And Reagan's. where do want your tax dollars to be spent? Helping kids grow into contributing citizens, or helping the wealthy maintain the status quo?

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    It makes it effective redistribution, as you're denying to Business B the profits that it would have otherwise made in competition on a level playing field against Business B.
    no.no.no.no.

    I don't care how many time you rephrase it or what terms you make up... it is not wealth redistribution, period.


    again, wealth redistribution requires a TRANSFER of wealth... stop arguing that a favorable tax code = wealth redistribution, it is simply not true.

    if you want to argue over favorable tax codes, fine, but stop saying they are something they are not.

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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    no.no.no.no.

    I don't care how many time you rephrase it or what terms you make up... it is not wealth redistribution, period.


    again, wealth redistribution requires a TRANSFER of wealth... stop arguing that a favorable tax code = wealth redistribution, it is simply not true.

    if you want to argue over favorable tax codes, fine, but stop saying they are something they are not.
    It absolutely is true.

    If you want to abolish corporate taxes altogether, fine, whatever. But when you're using the tax code to accomplish what in another time would be had with a direct hand-out, you are engaging in subsidy. And when you penalize the competitiveness of one business to the benefit of another, you are engaging in redistribution.
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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    If only it were that simple. The problem is, good intentions don't count. The Democrats want to spend a lot of money on stupid **** that will make our country worse. There is no good and evil in policy, only good and bad, and both main parties are dominated by bad ideas.

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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    So all ideas are not equal, I'll give you that. But when one party wants to privatize education, and the other wants to improve it, who do vote for? Don't fool yourself into thinking that that republicans are thrifty, you know Bush's record. And Reagan's. where do want your tax dollars to be spent? Helping kids grow into contributing citizens, or helping the wealthy maintain the status quo?
    my federal taxes don't go to schools...... they go to, primarily, benefits for the disadvantaged and the military.
    the Dept of Education has yet to educate one single child... not one!

    Obama has no say in my property taxes, so you are launching a red herring here... (property taxes pay for schools)

    and really.. look at your choices.. either "privatize" or "improve".... as if they are opposites or something
    (you'll really like Warren BUffets latest "theory" ... making private schools illegal.... it fits the liberal/progressive/statist agenda to a T)

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