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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    People are saying that he wants to impose just regulations and reasonable taxes on businesses in order to maintain a healthy and relatively fair economy.

    People are saying that he wants to redistribute wealth in order to control wealth and award his cronies and ideological allies.

    And, really, they're both right. Politics is like that. There's simply no way to extricate the two motivations, and it's senseless to try to measure them-- the only thing we can do is put on our wonk hats and look at his policies and see whom they are helping and whether or not they deserve our support in doing so.

    Everyone wants to redistribute the wealth. Anyone tells you any different is lying-- whether to you or to themselves.

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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    And thanks be to God for that one.
    And I imagine that during the Dark Ages, "real conservatives" ruled the roost.
    What, you mean back when trade was dominated by unions and production was overwhelmingly controlled by the government?

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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    People are saying that he wants to impose just regulations and reasonable taxes on businesses in order to maintain a healthy and relatively fair economy.

    People are saying that he wants to redistribute wealth in order to control wealth and award his cronies and ideological allies.

    And, really, they're both right. Politics is like that. There's simply no way to extricate the two motivations, and it's senseless to try to measure them-- the only thing we can do is put on our wonk hats and look at his policies and see whom they are helping and whether or not they deserve our support in doing so.

    Everyone wants to redistribute the wealth. Anyone tells you any different is lying-- whether to you or to themselves.
    I have to agree with you. Like you posited, which redistribution of wealth is good for our country? Hint: It's NOT giving more to the wealthy.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    I have to agree with you. Like you posited, which redistribution of wealth is good for our country? Hint: It's NOT giving more to the wealthy.
    well then you are voting for the wrong guy

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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    I have to agree with you. Like you posited, which redistribution of wealth is good for our country? Hint: It's NOT giving more to the wealthy.
    Neither party's plan, or overall agenda, is good for the whole people. The Democrats want to piss the money away on 'social justice' and unworkable technologies, without getting spending under control. The Republicans want to cut taxes on the wealthy when we're running massive deficits and have an entirely unacceptable debt load, and too many of them support tax plans that are mathematically incapable of supporting the amount of government that any non-libertarian thinks we need.

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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Why?

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    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    What, you mean back when trade was dominated by unions and production was overwhelmingly controlled by the government?
    Ah, a conservative who recognizes the Statist nature of feudalism. Amazing! Now we just need to work on ridding you of the ideological underpinnings of feudalism and we're golden.
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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    Neither party's plan, or overall agenda, is good for the whole people. The Democrats want to piss the money away on 'social justice' and unworkable technologies, without getting spending under control. The Republicans want to cut taxes on the wealthy when we're running massive deficits and have an entirely unacceptable debt load, and too many of them support tax plans that are mathematically incapable of supporting the amount of government that any non-libertarian thinks we need.
    I absolutely do not believe "social justice" is pissing money away. As a society, we are only as great as how we treat the least of us. We have a duty to provide for our fellow citizens who are incapable of doing so, period. As far as spending, I would much rather spend money on school lunches than on ****ed up mother ****ing godamned wars.

    Is there room for reduction in spending? Absolutely. Is there room for a tax increase on the wealthy? Absolutely. My opinion? We need to stop screwing ordinary citizens to favor the wealthy. Sooner or later, the middle class will wake and then all hell's gonna break loose. Our country was NOT founded to develop another royal class, and that is exactly what has happened.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    People are saying that he wants to impose just regulations and reasonable taxes on businesses in order to maintain a healthy and relatively fair economy.

    People are saying that he wants to redistribute wealth in order to control wealth and award his cronies and ideological allies.

    And, really, they're both right. Politics is like that. There's simply no way to extricate the two motivations, and it's senseless to try to measure them-- the only thing we can do is put on our wonk hats and look at his policies and see whom they are helping and whether or not they deserve our support in doing so.

    Everyone wants to redistribute the wealth. Anyone tells you any different is lying-- whether to you or to themselves.
    Well the same could be said of any POTUS that presides over the budget as all POTUS do so ANY POTUS is in a sense redistributing wealth if you want to play those semantics.

    I prefer nation building and defense of the United States of America and prefer the resolute intellect of Barack Obama.

    Yet realistically either candidate for POTUS has plans for the budget. I am pleased that middle class citizens are paying lower taxes and more citizens have health coverage in which they pay for.

    I support president President Obama on about 85 % of issues and trust his judgement as CIC in foreign policy.

    Romney ... well he has nice hair for a guy in his sixties and he got a nice slice of the pie of his reinvestment of funds for companies some of which wanted to relocate out of our country. he is very secretive of his off shore accounts and his personal economics for a guy who runs his mouth he is qualified based on this ability.

    Obama paid about the same income tax as I do and invested in his community and he has resolute intellect and calm..

    I do not respect Mr. Romney and do not find him worthy to be POTUS yet not evil ... just a spoiled rich kid who inherited wealth (trusts set up that hide untaxed $ such just like he has for his own children) and later became uber wealthy by taking slices of the pie.

    Romney is quite the fumbling incompetent on foreign policy and i agree he shoots off his mouth before he analyzes the situation.

    I can tell Romney has never been challenged as the uber wealthy spoiled rich kid ... he gets nervous and twitchy when anyone questions too deeply.
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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    What do you think and why would he want to do that?
    In fact, np, he does. He wants to make sure people like you are taken care of. Romney and Ryan? Not so much. You do know Ryan voted against veterans benefits, right?

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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