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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Redistribution of wealth is one thing the USA is incredibly good at. Thanks to things like reduced capital gains tax rates we've moved a lot of wealth to the top.

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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by vvx View Post
    Redistribution of wealth is one thing the USA is incredibly good at. Thanks to things like reduced capital gains tax rates we've moved a lot of wealth to the top.
    whoa there... so now reduced taxation is "wealth redistribution"?

    that's .. umm... not accurate.

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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    whoa there... so now reduced taxation is "wealth redistribution"?

    that's .. umm... not accurate.
    It absolutely can be, under certain circumstances.

    Consider the fact that the United States engages in targeted tax reductions for oil companies that drill on American soil, under the rationale that it "creates jobs". It does not provide that relief to foreign-held oil companies that sell in America. In that case, those tax reductions are every bit as redistributionist as a direct handout.
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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    It absolutely can be, under certain circumstances.

    Consider the fact that the United States engages in targeted tax reductions for oil companies that drill on American soil, under the rationale that it "creates jobs". It does not provide that relief to foreign-held oil companies that sell in America. In that case, those tax reductions are every bit as redistributionist as a direct handout.
    allowing a legal entity to keep more of its income can never be considered wealth redistribution.

    in order for wealth to be redistributed, it needs to be confiscated first.

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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    How can anyone answer anything other than "yes"?

    Obama said that's what he wants about four years ago.
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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    allowing a legal entity to keep more of its income can never be considered wealth redistribution.

    in order for wealth to be redistributed, it needs to be confiscated first.
    If you are using selective tax cuts to penalize organizations which are forced into paying their full taxes, it definitely becomes wealth distribution, a reverse-subsidy that picks winners and losers.
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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by German guy View Post
    Well, I guess then there are no real conservatives in politics.
    And thanks be to God for that one.
    And I imagine that during the Dark Ages, "real conservatives" ruled the roost.

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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    If you are using selective tax cuts to penalize organizations which are forced into paying their full taxes, it definitely becomes wealth distribution, a reverse-subsidy that picks winners and losers.
    sorry, that's still not wealth redistribution....

    a requirement of wealth redistribution is a transfer of wealth.. in order to transfer, you must take control of that wealth... then pass it on.. transfer it.

    direct subsidies can be wealth redistribution ...but what you are describing can not.

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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Again what planet are you from? We are talking about tax increases on the wealthy...
    No; that's what the cpaital drive wants you to think. What they are doing is something else entirely. They have diverted your attention with the fallacy that the unbiquitous "big hand" wants to pick on them, when they are in fact stealing from you. They are going to make you the last generation that draws social security or has a a private pension, i.e. a union one. (whether you personally have a union pension or not doesn't matter to this point), all union pensions are to become a thing of the past. The new model is going to be based on "return". Fees and interest that will be run by a few trusts and trustees. The (401) will serve as a capital raising devise for business expansions. The country is being taken over by a business model. We are no longer the America that we were raised to understand. Citizens United by the way has plenty of room for foreign influences, adn one the capital markets have been controlled, you won't have any idea where your money is. And, as with Sept 2007, if the bottom falls out? "it's just a market shift" a "correction", "you can work another 25 years and replace it".

    I happen to not want that.
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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    If the answer were yes, it'd make him no different from the likes of economists such as Milton Friedman, who supported a NEGATIVE income tax in conjunction with his flat tax proposal. Chew on that for a minute.
    I'm trying to work the numbers on that right now, actually. I think I can lower the deficit while increasing the income of lower income Americans, without hiking taxes on business owners and upper income earners. Depending on whether or not I'm fusing the Census Data correctly... I had to eventually give up and assign the average household to all income strata equally, which I know is false, but which I think if anything might be slightly conservative on both ends (expenditures and revenues), thus canceling each other out.

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