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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    I think Obama knows that America must have a robust Middle Class. How he goes about that is problematic unless he can change the tax incentives so US profits abroad are repatriated for investment HERE in the US.
    that was attempted last year.. the bipartisan Hagan-Mccain Repatriation Bill gave some serious incentives for repatriating offshore profits...and it was backed by Republican house leaders and businesses alike


    .....and then Harry Reid killed it.

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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Hahaha

    Let people graph/show THOSE rates and see what people think about it, instead of just a little graph with the top.

    .. and that's not even all of the brackets... there's 11 more I didn't list

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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    that was attempted last year.. the bipartisan Hagan-Mccain Repatriation Bill gave some serious incentives for repatriating offshore profits...and it was backed by Republican house leaders and businesses alike


    .....and then Harry Reid killed it.
    Harry Reid? Oh mercy.. Guess I am not as partisan as you.. Hold their feet to the fire... and vote the ejits out of office regardless of what 'party" the claim.

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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    I think Obama knows that America must have a robust Middle Class. How he goes about that is problematic unless he can change the tax incentives so US profits abroad are repatriated for investment HERE in the US.
    Obama SAYS America must have a robust middle class because that's his reelection platform. His policies redistribute wealth to the outliers (the rich, via corporate welfare, and the poor, via social welfare).

    So if the corporate, banking and political elite are on the receiving end of welfare, and the poor are on the receiving end of welfare, who is left to pay for it?

    Answer, by default: The Middle Class.

    Translation: Obama will be re-elected on a platform that is diametrically opposite of his policy goals.


    If you doubt this, just ask me for some examples.
    Last edited by Neomalthusian; 09-23-12 at 06:25 PM.

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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    that was attempted last year.. the bipartisan Hagan-Mccain Repatriation Bill gave some serious incentives for repatriating offshore profits...and it was backed by Republican house leaders and businesses alike


    .....and then Harry Reid killed it.
    You consider this a SERIOUS bill?

    Dollar Repatriation Tax Holiday Bill to Be Introduced by Hagan, McCain - Bloomberg

    U.S. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said a corporate repatriation proposal by Senators Kay Hagan and John McCain won’t pass the Senate as a stand-alone bill and needs to be coupled with infrastructure improvement efforts.

    “It won’t just be simply repatriation,” the Nevada Democrat said. Corporate tax holiday legislation “will be part of an infrastructure program,” Reid said in a brief interview today. Reid declined to provide details. McCain and Hagan said they would introduce the legislation tomorrow.
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    Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, a Democrat from Nevada. Photographer: Andrew Harrer/Bloomberg
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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    Obama SAYS America must have a robust middle class because that's his reelection platform. His policies redistribute wealth to the outliers (the rich, via corporate welfare, and the poor, via social welfare).

    So if the corporate, banking and political elite are on the receiving end of welfare, and the poor are on the receiving end of welfare, who is left to pay for it?

    Answer, by default: The Middle Class.

    Translation: Obama will be re-elected on a platform that is diametrically opposite of his policy goals.
    Wait....what did you just say? That the middle class need welfare?

    The middle class needs jobs, education and good wages. That's what Obama is talking about.

    A Strong Middle Class | The White House

    Sure never had a republican president set up a study to see where the laws hurt the middle class before. I think Obama is on the right track. Now, what do the republicans have to show for their 4 years of blocking jobs for the middle class?
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    Australian social scientist, quoted by Noam Chomsky in World Orders Old and New

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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    .. and that's not even all of the brackets... there's 11 more I didn't list
    Just hit 'em with a couple of them, and that's the quick end of that graph. Be sure to point out how there was no 47% without income tax back then, too.

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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Creek View Post
    Wait....what did you just say? That the middle class need welfare?
    No, that's not what I just said. Try again.

    The middle class needs jobs, education and good wages. That's what Obama is talking about.

    A Strong Middle Class | The White House

    Sure never had a republican president set up a study to see where the laws hurt the middle class before. I think Obama is on the right track. Now, what do the republicans have to show for their 4 years of blocking jobs for the middle class?
    My post is not a defense of Republicans. My post is about a glaring contrast between Obama's stated policy goals and what his policies actually DO.

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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    How can anybody say no tho this question?

    Obamacare takes money from people that can afford health care and gives it to people that can't

    That is the definition of redistribution.
    How do you figure? It's the insurance companies that set the price. How about regulating them? Obama has no control over what the insurance industries do. Remember your republican party screaming "No" to Socialist health care, despite the fact every congressmen HAS socialist health care?

    No, there's no government interference in health care..the republicans FINALLY got the mandatory insurance they wanted...held up by the republican supreme court.
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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    No, that's not what I just said. Try again.



    My post is not a defense of Republicans. My post is about a glaring contrast between Obama's stated policy goals and what his policies actually DO.
    By talking?

    Show some facts and examples.
    Alex Carey:

    ... the 20th century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: The growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy.

    Australian social scientist, quoted by Noam Chomsky in World Orders Old and New

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