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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    Sounds like Reaganism to me.
    Never knew the guy, but if that is what he believed than he was a smart guy.
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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by comedy4all View Post
    Oh yes let’s play the “some” and “not all” game.

    It is a possibility that “some” of the people that are considered rich got that way by stealing their money. Although the vast majority of them did it the legitimate way. By providing a good or service that people wanted. Bands provide songs, athletes provide entertainment, construction companies provide buildings, grocery stores provide food; and people give their money to these places voluntarily in exchange for the product or service.

    I am also going to add my response to another thread, because I think that it applies here.

    Being poor and being dirt poor (for lack of a better term) are two different things, I have been both.

    Right now I am poor; I must tell you that it’s pretty nice. I have EBT so I eat well. I get government assistance that pays for my house, cable/internet, and I bought a new computer with my tax returns. I haven’t worked in over a year.

    Being dirt poor is a mental condition. During my twenties I decided to live out of a van for three years, I thought it would be “cool”. It was cool. I had no bills and the freedom to go where ever I wanted. As far as eating goes, I found ways to get by. I earned what money I could, and frankly I drank most of it away. When I met others in similar dirt poorness I found that there is a certain laziness to the life style. They would always moan about it not being fair that they live like this, but they would never do anything about it. So; like me they chose to be dirt poor.

    When I decided to end my time being dirt poor, it ended. I got a job and an apartment. I later married and started a small café’ with my wife. The bad economy hit and killed our café’. I have not been able to find a job for over a year. I have decided I will not live like a moocher so I enlisted in the Army.

    In America; Poverty is a choice.
    They will shot your eye out in the army.

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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by ashurbanipal View Post
    This doesn't seem so helpful to me; it just pushes the question back a step. What counts as "willing" in either case?

    This is far from an idle question. When, for instance, I feel thirst, and I get some water, did I just make a willing choice? I certainly would not have gotten the water absent the thirst I felt. Feeling the thirst, I could not long ignore the body's demand for water. So my choice was coerced at least in that sense.

    I suspect many people who work menial jobs would, if their choice was unconstrained, demand more for their labor. But, of course, they cannot do so. I recognize, of course, that someone whose job is to sweep floors should not command a hundred dollars an hour or some such lofty wage. But at the same time, people are coerced into taking what labor they can find, and at the wages they can find. I think a case can be made that we're dangerously close to pushing the envelope past its breaking point on this matter, and when that happens, there are going to be some very unpleasant consequences. We're already dealing with some of them.

    Adam Smith spends a fair deal of locution talking about this problem. IIRC, it was chapter 8 of book 1 of The Wealth of Nations. He did not believe that wages should be determined by the market, as we was convinced this would lead to a lack of genuine liberty. Unfortunately, not very many people these days have taken time to read his argument.
    "Willing" means voluntary, you have a choice. Your body's demand for water is your problem, not mine, and not that of society or the government. Likewise with your wishes for more pay and a better standard of living - if you want more money for your time, it is up to you to find someone who thinks you are worth what you want. If you feel coerced, you are coerced only by your own desires and that is your problem alone, not anyone else.
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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    "Willing" means voluntary, you have a choice. Your body's demand for water is your problem, not mine, and not that of society or the government. Likewise with your wishes for more pay and a better standard of living - if you want more money for your time, it is up to you to find someone who thinks you are worth what you want. If you feel coerced, you are coerced only by your own desires and that is your problem alone, not anyone else.
    With a post like that you ought to be quoting rush limbaugh instead of A.L. in your sig.

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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    With a post like that you ought to be quoting rush limbaugh instead of A.L. in your sig.
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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    I accept your surrender on the issues.
    I know you are, but what am I?

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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    "Willing" means voluntary, you have a choice. Your body's demand for water is your problem, not mine, and not that of society or the government. .

    Most governments...Well heck most people have realized the need for a clean public water system (especially after cholera outbreaks I'd suspect) over the years.

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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Most governments...Well heck most people have realized the need for a clean public water system (especially after cholera outbreaks I'd suspect) over the years.
    Sure. So.... ??
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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    In answer to the question posed in the poll. Yes. Since every tax, and before that, every tariff ever enacted constitutes a redistribution of wealth, obviously he - along with every other politician who believes in a civilized society comprised of, among other things, roads you can drive on, bridges you can drive over, police to protect you, and firemen to prevent your house from burning - believes in redistribution of wealth.
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