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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    What do you think and why would he want to do that?
    Of course he does...every President has redistributed wealth. By taxing and funding you redistribute wealth.
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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by comedy4all View Post
    Unions are outdated thugs that are the true source of greed. We do not fear thugs, we burry them.
    Thugs are CEO's that make billions and refuse to give a 3% raise. Or illegally terminate leaders or any of the other litany of crimes they commit.

    latest crime of the CEO, they collect AND KEEP state taxes paid by the workers in 19 states.

    Only thing OUTDATED is capitalism that needs TRILLIONS ever few years in printed money to feed the greed.
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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by 274ina View Post
    The 99%.
    As a member of the intellectual class, I'd put my money on the 1%. I must, commies always kill us after they win.

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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by ashurbanipal View Post
    First, who said anything about this? I didn't bring it up. I was just discussing the general principle that:

    1) Distribution of wealth simply refers to the actual distribution of wealth, not the rightful or just distribution of wealth.

    2) If wealth is distributed unjustly, clearly redistribution is the right action.

    Would you not agree with this principle? It seems pretty clear-cut to me. But if I'm right, redistribution of wealth, in itself, is not unjust or morally wrong. Which means, in turn, that your first reply to my question is false. Redistribution of wealth is not always theft.

    Second, I disagree with your assessment of poverty and wealth in our society. But you're doing nothing other than asserting. What sorts of arguments can you bring in support of your position?
    Wealth is not distributed, it is created. You are not given wealth, you make it. Money is not distributed to you, you either earn it or you steal it.
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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by 274ina View Post
    Thugs are CEO's that make billions and refuse to give a 3% raise. Or illegally terminate leaders or any of the other litany of crimes they commit.

    latest crime of the CEO, they collect AND KEEP state taxes paid by the workers in 19 states.

    Only thing OUTDATED is capitalism that needs TRILLIONS ever few years in printed money to feed the greed.
    Capitalism isn't outdated. It's the best economic system we have for the time being. If you'd prefer to substitute your own, please do so.
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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by comedy4all View Post
    Yah they bring the cops and have you arrested if you lay a hand on any of them. And if you try anything where a cop can’t see you get shot by the guy that has a conceal and carry license.
    No, we already have done this in our history and there is no need to revisit those barbaric practices of the labor war. Unions came into existence because of a necessity for unions. They exist today largely as corrupt organizations bent on money and power....just like the government. And just like the government, you can't exactly do away with them as there is a base need and functionality for them.
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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by comedy4all
    Wealth is not distributed, it is created. You are not given wealth, you make it. Money is not distributed to you, you either earn it or you steal it.
    I can think of a few problems with this, but I'll respond to the one I think is most critical: why does this in any way rule out that the rich (which I take to mean, all or most rich people) in our society didn't steal from the poor? You said it yourself: you either earn wealth, or you steal it. Nothing in your statement precludes the possibility that the rich, or at least some rich people, stole their wealth.

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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Actually, the president and many many more wan the rich in this country to start paying their dues like everybody else. You talk about a free ride.
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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by ashurbanipal View Post
    First, who said anything about this? I didn't bring it up. I was just discussing the general principle that:

    1) Distribution of wealth simply refers to the actual distribution of wealth, not the rightful or just distribution of wealth.

    2) If wealth is distributed unjustly, clearly redistribution is the right action.

    Would you not agree with this principle? It seems pretty clear-cut to me. But if I'm right, redistribution of wealth, in itself, is not unjust or morally wrong. Which means, in turn, that your first reply to my question is false. Redistribution of wealth is not always theft.

    Second, I disagree with your assessment of poverty and wealth in our society. But you're doing nothing other than asserting. What sorts of arguments can you bring in support of your position?
    Who decides what constitutes "rightful or just" distribution of wealth, and what is their basis for doing so?
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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes
    Who decides what constitutes "rightful or just" distribution of wealth, and what is their basis for doing so?
    Now, there's a serious question. I'm not sure. I don't think mere contracts do. Nor am I entirely convinced that theft would always lead to unjust distribution. But, I think any answers to this question will involve some arbitrariness.

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