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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    When the Republicans make it a mission to disrupt government and private pension systems with Wall Street driven capitalizations schemes; that, by definition is redistribution of wealth.
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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Any real Conservative.
    Well, I guess then there are no real conservatives in politics.
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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    That's what Keynesian economics is about: for every tax dollar you give a business (so the theory goes), it produces two dollars in real value in return - the original dollar and the return on its investment.
    That was the original theory, but it was based on building real infrastructure - dams, canals, highways, and the like. That's all been done, and the latest (optimistic) estimates for recent years show a return of 60 cents for each dollar pulled out of the economy. I suspect when the returns are in for Obama's term, with all the money thrown away on so-called "green energy" fantasies, that the return will actually be negative.
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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    That was the original theory, but it was based on building real infrastructure - dams, canals, highways, and the like. That's all been done, and the latest (optimistic) estimates for recent years show a return of 60 cents for each dollar pulled out of the economy. I suspect when the returns are in for Obama's term, with all the money thrown away on so-called "green energy" fantasies, that the return will actually be negative.
    I don't particularly care. Corporate welfare is the biggest issue in American politics today. Businesses ought not receive a nickle for any reason at any time. That includes subsidies for the poor wittle oil and coal companies.
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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    I don't particularly care. Corporate welfare is the biggest issue in American politics today. Businesses ought not receive a nickle for any reason at any time. That includes subsidies for the poor wittle oil and coal companies.
    Or nuclear plants, for that matter. Sure, repeal the regulations against nuclear power that have accumulated since the 1970s. And then let the mighty captains of industry take all the risks in building the plants themselves. Surely they won't mind.

    For that matter, I favor overturning the Interstate Highway Act. It really does nothing more than subsidize oil and automobile companies.
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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    I don't particularly care. Corporate welfare is the biggest issue in American politics today. Businesses ought not receive a nickle for any reason at any time. That includes subsidies for the poor wittle oil and coal companies.
    Disagreed. It is individual entitlements that are breaking the bank. If however you are referring to the crony capitalism that gave us Solyndra and Fisker, and stiffed the legitimate creditors of the auto companies to give them to the UAW, then I will agree with you.
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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    Disagreed. It is individual entitlements that are breaking the bank. If however you are referring to the crony capitalism that gave us Solyndra and Fisker, and stiffed the legitimate creditors of the auto companies to give them to the UAW, then I will agree with you.
    Corporate entitlements make up a larger portion of the Federal budget by about 35%, and have even less of a legitimate function than individual entitlements than anything.

    As for "what I mean", I mean any program that gives any money whatsoever to any business interest for any reason. The upward transfer of wealth from the taxpayer to business is completely illegitimate.

    Eliminate corporate welfare immediately or we will all suffer the consequences.
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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    What do you think and why would he want to do that?

    But really we all want to know what you think because it is such a mystery.

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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    Corporate entitlements make up a larger portion of the Federal budget by about 35%, and have even less of a legitimate function than individual entitlements than anything.

    As for "what I mean", I mean any program that gives any money whatsoever to any business interest for any reason. The upward transfer of wealth from the taxpayer to business is completely illegitimate.

    Eliminate corporate welfare immediately or we will all suffer the consequences.
    Omit the words corporate and business from your statement, and I would agree with you. That would mean giving no money whatsoever to any interest for any reason.
    That would eliminate any transfer of wealth

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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    such as....?
    You want me to name all Conservatives?
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