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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Friedman was for wealth redistribution?
    Friedman wanted to replace the welfare state with a negative income tax, which he argued would remove the disencentives to work and family formation while increasing the income of the poor. I'm actually putting some of the numbers together on it now, it looks like he was pretty spot-on (as he usually was).

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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Not so much.
    But he was in favor of oppressive governments apparently that implement his ideas



    Friedman's ideas centered around reducing government control and influence over our lives. Opressive governance is kinda the opposite

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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    tax cuts are not wealth redistribution..... I don't care how many times you people argue as much, it will never be true.
    Tax cuts are as much income redistribution as tax increases are. Whenever you change the tax rate you are redistributing wealth. I don't care how many time you people deny it, it will always be true.
    Its just a talking point one way or the other.
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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    As hard as I try I will never understand why people on the left hate and begrudge the wealthy in this country and want more oftheir money when they are already paying most of the taxes in this country.
    LOL....did you call it "wealth redistribution when Reagan asked the rich to pay their fair share?"....oops I forgot....probably not....he had a (R) behind his name.
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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Tax cuts are as much income redistribution as tax increases are.
    Inasmuch as zero is a number, that is correct. Neither of these are income redistribution. transfer payments are income redistribution.

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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    As hard as I try I will never understand why people on the left hate and begrudge the wealthy in this country and want more oftheir money when they are already paying most of the taxes in this country.
    You're delusional, wealthy pay most of the taxes??? Did some rich guy tell you that?

    I'm not sure what you consider rich but people earning between 50k and 500k pay most of our taxes. I'm talking about executives who do terrible jobs and get payed $1mill+ and get $100k bonuses as they fire people in the name of short term "cost cut" while shrinking the company and driving it back into the dirt from which the real entrepreneurs raised them. The same entrepreneurs who put everything on the line and invested everything they got back in their company and the economy. Those guys I don't mind having low taxes as they give it back.
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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    We have a mechanism in place to determine who is deserving of financial success. It's called a free market, and those who contribute to society are rewarded according to their contribution. That's why Bill Gates has more money than the crack addict sleeping under a park bench. You and I don't determine who deserves financial success. If I was in charge, Wacko Jacko would have spent his career cleaning public toilets; but I'm not in charge, and I accept that. Your life will be much happier when you also learn to accept that your idea of "fairness" doesn't count for any more than mine.
    What's to stop a group of people from manipulating things to their advantage and essentially rob people of their hard work. Some CEO's do terrible jobs, lose the company money, and still get payed bonuses care to explain how the "free market" is fair there?
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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    At least the wealthy ones are mostly self-made. That means they earned their money, instead of having it handed to them just because they exist.
    you have that backward, imho.

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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Tax cuts are as much income redistribution as tax increases are. Whenever you change the tax rate you are redistributing wealth. I don't care how many time you people deny it, it will always be true.
    Its just a talking point one way or the other.
    yes.. no matter how many time I say something factual and accurate... you will believe the opposite.

    we know.


    tax cuts are never wealth redistribution... please learn the definition of the terms you are attempting to argue.. please.

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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Inasmuch as zero is a number, that is correct. Neither of these are income redistribution. transfer payments are income redistribution.
    I'll bite. What's a transfer payment?

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