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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Friedman was for wealth redistribution?
    Not so much.
    But he was in favor of oppressive governments apparently that implement his ideas


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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    Sure he does. That gives the unproductive members of society (like community agitators) access to, and control over, wealth produced by others.
    All the filthy rich are so honorable and hard working, all the middle class are just degenerates of society. ...right we are well aware of the conservative views.
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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by shiang View Post
    All the filthy rich are so honorable and hard working, all the middle class are just degenerates of society. ...right we are well aware of the conservative views.
    As hard as I try I will never understand why people on the left hate and begrudge the wealthy in this country and want more oftheir money when they are already paying most of the taxes in this country.
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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    I think he wants to highly tax wealth and label it as redistributing or "paying a fair share."
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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by H. Lee White View Post
    This is a deliberate misuse of the term.
    No it is not. It is a fact. Read the tax codes.

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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    As hard as I try I will never understand why people on the left hate and begrudge the wealthy in this country and want more oftheir money when they are already paying most of the taxes in this country.
    We're pissed at the superiority complex they have. We're pissed because they refuse to admit that a lot of people, not just the wealthy, are hardworking and deserving of success. We're pissed because they take advantage of the society around them, and then turn around and take away those advantages for others. We don't begrudge them being wealthy. Some of them really do deserve it. Someone whose ideas revolutionize an industry should be living in the lap of luxury. But the attitude of people like Ryan are "I got where I am because I worked hard to earn it." The implication of that statement is that everyone else who is NOT where is, isn't working hard enough. Which is a load of bull. A lot of people work just as hard as he does, and a lot work a whole lot harder. And many of them are not succeeding like he has. What we don't like about the rich is their refusal to admit that good fortune played a big role in their success, and their refusal to take steps to reduce the role that fortune plays in a person's success, so that it really can translate into hard work directly leading to success.
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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    We're pissed at the superiority complex they have. We're pissed because they refuse to admit that a lot of people, not just the wealthy, are hardworking and deserving of success. We're pissed because they take advantage of the society around them, and then turn around and take away those advantages for others. We don't begrudge them being wealthy. Some of them really do deserve it. Someone whose ideas revolutionize an industry should be living in the lap of luxury. But the attitude of people like Ryan are "I got where I am because I worked hard to earn it." The implication of that statement is that everyone else who is NOT where is, isn't working hard enough. Which is a load of bull. A lot of people work just as hard as he does, and a lot work a whole lot harder. And many of them are not succeeding like he has. What we don't like about the rich is their refusal to admit that good fortune played a big role in their success, and their refusal to take steps to reduce the role that fortune plays in a person's success, so that it really can translate into hard work directly leading to success.
    Maybe your just jealous of their success and want something for nothing.
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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by shiang View Post
    All the filthy rich are so honorable and hard working, all the middle class are just degenerates of society. ...right we are well aware of the conservative views.
    At least the wealthy ones are mostly self-made. That means they earned their money, instead of having it handed to them just because they exist.
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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Friedman was for wealth redistribution?
    Check it out yourself:

    Negative income tax - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    If that ain't "wealth redistribution," I dunno what is.
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    Re: Do you think Obama wants to redistribute wealth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    We're pissed at the superiority complex they have. We're pissed because they refuse to admit that a lot of people, not just the wealthy, are hardworking and deserving of success.
    We have a mechanism in place to determine who is deserving of financial success. It's called a free market, and those who contribute to society are rewarded according to their contribution. That's why Bill Gates has more money than the crack addict sleeping under a park bench. You and I don't determine who deserves financial success. If I was in charge, Wacko Jacko would have spent his career cleaning public toilets; but I'm not in charge, and I accept that. Your life will be much happier when you also learn to accept that your idea of "fairness" doesn't count for any more than mine.
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