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    Re: Would you support the Boles Simpson debt reduction plan?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Thats 3 yrs ago stuff....they have put forth a plan since then...but you already know that ....the evidence is all around you Cpwill the rich need a tax increase and the middleclass and poor need the break this time... but you know that too


    No Country Leans On Upper Income Earners As Much As The US


    In our country it isn't that we don't tax the upper income deciles, it's that by and large we don't tax our middle class like other nations do. that's why we raise less as a % of GDP in revenue than they do.

    and before you start bringing it up, that's counting both payroll and income taxes





    What we need is not a system that tries to take from one at the expense of another, or raise ones' burden to lower anothers'. What we need is a tax system that is simple and sane, instead of our current spaggetti mess.

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    Re: Would you support the Boles Simpson debt reduction plan?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post


    No Country Leans On Upper Income Earners As Much As The US




    and before you start bringing it up, that's counting both payroll and income taxes





    What we need is not a system that tries to take from one at the expense of another, or raise ones' burden to lower anothers'. What we need is a tax system that is simple and sane, instead of our current spaggetti mess.
    n our country it isn't that we don't tax the upper income deciles, it's that by and large we don't tax our middle class like other nations do. that's why we raise less as a % of GDP in revenue than they do.

    CPWill the evidence that your last statement is total utter nonesense is all around you...ive posted dozens of factual links showing just how bad the middleclass has been pummeled and how its shrunk and the ranks of the poor have risen all the while the american richest have gotten fabulously richer. This we pay to much taxs is too much trash. Thats all they ever say WE NEED MORE TAX CUTS that will fix it....trickle down food to end hunger, trickle down housing to end homelessness because there are no jobs...trickle down this and that...



    Obama put it perfect in one of his localized speeches...here is pretty much a quote..not exact. Republicans answer to everything is the richest need a tax cut. In good times, the rich need a tax cut. In bad times the rich need a tax cut. In war the rich need a tax cut. World Starvation th rich need a tax cut. Devastating natural disasters the rich need a tax cut. The republicans believe the only remedy for everything is tax cuts.

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    Re: Would you support the Boles Simpson debt reduction plan?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    CPWill the evidence that your last statement is total utter nonesense is all around you...ive posted dozens of factual links showing just how bad the middleclass has been pummeled and how its shrunk and the ranks of the poor have risen all the while the american richest have gotten fabulously richer.
    Oh I agree. That just doesn't happen to flow from taxes, but rather from the fact that poor national economic decisions (such as those being made by the current administration) will always disproportionately harm those least able to protect themselves.

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    Re: Would you support the Boles Simpson debt reduction plan?

    Absolutely not.

    Reducing defense procurement by 15% when the military is already overburdened with maintenance costs for old equipment. Stupid, reduce the maintenance cost by getting new equipment. You can only keep 40+ year old equipment running for so long, eventually you will need new equipment.

    Sustaining Obama care and even adding a public option, no way. Increasing the authority of a government agency also sounds like a very bad plan to institute socialistic controls. Eliminating tax deductions for businesses providing healthcare, yep, that should really help the healthcare problem as it becomes cheaper and easier to just pay the "obamacare tax" instead.

    15% gas tax when cost are already high for gas. Sure, take even more money out peoples pockets, that should really help a consumer based economy.

    I notice that nowhere does it address reducing Welfare or Medicaid. No, instead it wants to reduce pensions of people who worked and earned it. The plan is a very good example of Dem thinking and pandering to the left while totally ignoring reality or coming up with a plan that cuts from all of government.

    This whole plan, if adopted is just one more mile on the road to revolution.

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    Re: Would you support the Boles Simpson debt reduction plan?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Oh I agree. That just doesn't happen to flow from taxes, but rather from the fact that poor national economic decisions (such as those being made by the current administration) will always disproportionately harm those least able to protect themselves.
    Marine the harm thats been done to the middleclass and poor did NOT happen in the last 3.5 yrs it started in 1981

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    Re: Would you support the Boles Simpson debt reduction plan?

    A core element is a flat tax to eliminate what they called the reality that the super rich and corporates write the tax code and accordingly exempt themselves via deductions - so it doesn't matter was rate is set at in the current system as the super rich and mega corporations will exempt themselves. A flat tax eliminates tax loopholes for the rich.

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    Re: Would you support the Boles Simpson debt reduction plan?

    i'd support moving all of the tax brackets back to 1990s levels.

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    Re: Would you support the Boles Simpson debt reduction plan?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    i'd support moving all of the tax brackets back to 1990s levels.
    Why not completely redo the entire tax system, making it simple to understand and implement and removing most of the deductions and convolutions in the system?

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    Re: Would you support the Boles Simpson debt reduction plan?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Why not completely redo the entire tax system, making it simple to understand and implement and removing most of the deductions and convolutions in the system?
    sure, as long as the end result is not regressive.

    i doubt we'll see it in our lifetimes, though. those deductions and convolutions were paid for by a lot of lobbying. also, what is considered a "loophole," and which loopholes do we eliminate?

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    Re: Would you support the Boles Simpson debt reduction plan?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Why not completely redo the entire tax system, making it simple to understand and implement and removing most of the deductions and convolutions in the system?
    I agree. We've got to get corporate money out of Congress first though. Until that happens, progress can't be made on a myriad of issues.

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