View Poll Results: Should society eliminate age of majority?

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  • Yes, maturity is qualitative, not quantitative.

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  • Yes, there are better ways to judge maturity.

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  • No, society can't judge maturity better.

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  • No, maturity is quantitative, not qualitative.

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Thread: Should Society Eliminate Age of Majority?

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    Re: Should Society Eliminate Age of Majority?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckBerry View Post
    Your's and ecofarm's responses indicate that you wouldn't pass the test. Neither of you are sufficiently mature to discuss this subject seriously, and therefore should not be allowed to operate a motor vehicle.
    Considering the fact that of the two of us,I am the only one intelligent and mature enough to recognize the enormity of the bureaucracy necessary to administer to such an impractical undertaking, I wonder if both you and Daktoria are motivated to support such silliness by the desire to be considered of the age of majority when you currently aren't.
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    Re: Should Society Eliminate Age of Majority?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    the enormity of the bureaucracy necessary to administer to such an impractical undertaking
    On the contrary, it would eliminate all need for bureaucracy. But that's OK, most people are now so mired in the "more power" paradigm that they think the only solution for everything is less individual responsibility for anything.
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    Re: Should Society Eliminate Age of Majority?

    While I think age is not a good judge of majority, and there are better ways to determine whether someone should be treated as an adult, I also think that those other ways would take a lot of time and money, and might not be worth the effort.
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    Re: Should Society Eliminate Age of Majority?

    What are these ways you guys are talking about that would cost so much time and money? Put boys in the Boy Scouts and let them learn self-reliance in the woods. Any man making it all the way through Boy Scouts program can be a fully enfranchised citizen. Anyone making Eagle Scout would be allowed to run for public office.

    Girls should plant gardens to learn the value of nurturing something from seed to fully grown.

    Competitive sports would NOT be an acceptable alternative. Too much showboating due to the televised nature of most sports. Cooperation without cameras should be the watch phrase.

    And the paradigm of income or net worth as marker of value to society must end.
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    Should Society Eliminate Age of Majority?

    In some states, 12 year olds can get married with parental permission. Go figure. I guess it isn't statutory when it's your wife. Ick.
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    Re: Should Society Eliminate Age of Majority?

    Hard to pick in this poll, but I think we should do age of consent like in Canada. You turn 16 and you can just consent. Simple. And don't tell me people can't consent at that age. Bologna.

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    Re: Should Society Eliminate Age of Majority?

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    Many people are mature beyond their years, and others never grow up.

    Therefore, should society eliminate age of majority, and instead, require people to graduate a philosophical rite of passage before participating in adult activities?
    Mature people can still do stupid things. Maturity does not guaranty wisdom and good decision making practices.
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    Re: Should Society Eliminate Age of Majority?

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    In some states, 12 year olds can get married with parental permission. Go figure. I guess it isn't statutory when it's your wife. Ick.
    The point with that I guess is that the parents are making the evaluation of whether the person is responsible and mature and will do right by the minor. Anyway, such marriages are extraordinarily rare nowadays, a holdover from rural agricultural days.
    The morality of abortion is not a religious belief, any more than the morality of slavery, apartheid, rape, larceny, murder or arson is a religious belief. These are norms of the natural law of mankind and can be legislated even in a completely religionless society.

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    Re: Should Society Eliminate Age of Majority?

    No, simply because there isn't a better way to judge it on a societal level. You cannot take a group of people and decide that they are mature or immature without examining each one individually and we cannot have laws that operate that way. Therefore, we simply declare an arbitrary age as the place where people are expected to be mature and will be held accountable for being mature and leave it at that.

    It's not a perfect system but I don't see another that works better.
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    Re: Should Society Eliminate Age of Majority?

    If anything, the age of consent should be increased. It's a fact that kids-to-young adults are maturing later and later, due to several factors. We need to start adjusting accordingly, not least of which means pushing access to mature rights and privileges farther away.

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