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Thread: Why Wasn't Iraq Colonized?

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    Re: Why Wasn't Iraq Colonized?

    Because this is not the 16th century.

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    Re: Why Wasn't Iraq Colonized?

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    Serious answers only please. This is not a troll thread.

    That is not a sarcastic comment (ad infinitum).
    Oddly, I don't see "it's not what we were there for" as one of your answers, being that it's the correct one.
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    Re: Why Wasn't Iraq Colonized?

    Quote Originally Posted by comedy4all View Post
    Deflection??

    This thread is about Iraq not Tibet. I do believe that my statement;
    “To stand by while evil men do evil thing to innocent people because it is a “sovereign nation” is just wrong”
    Applies to all similar situations.
    My response was/is relevant. The US is extremely selective in when and if we stand by and watch evil men. We could have bombed the rail lines to the Nazi death camps in WWII, but we didn't do that. You apparently feel that your service in Iraq and the people you killed there were worth it. I disagree. You are wrong. You submit that it is somehow our duty to act like the global Lone Ranger. Your sanctimonious justification for selective intervention is self-serving. We see that. You need to know we see it.

    The West, including the United States, has been ****ing over the people in the Middle East for over 60 years. We have assassinated their leaders, we have picked their new leaders, overthrown their governments, we have divided their countries, set new boundaries, killed their women and children, destroyed their infrastructures, armed regional nation against regional nation, provided logistics for one against the other, stolen the resources and occupied their lands. All in the name of truth, goodness and mercy? LOL! And you want to do it some more? Sign your butt back up and ship back over. You are a rare war dog, indeed.

    How do you determine evil in such a way that it doesn't include the West's actions?

    The best thing we can do for America, my country, is to get the hell out of the Middle East for good. Let them handle their own problems just as we prefer to handle our own problems. Or would you have no problem in other nations doing "for" us what we have done "for" them for the last 60+ years?

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    Re: Why Wasn't Iraq Colonized?

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    My response was/is relevant. The US is extremely selective in when and if we stand by and watch evil men. We could have bombed the rail lines to the Nazi death camps in WWII, but we didn't do that. You apparently feel that your service in Iraq and the people you killed there were worth it. I disagree. You are wrong. You submit that it is somehow our duty to act like the global Lone Ranger. Your sanctimonious justification for selective intervention is self-serving. We see that. You need to know we see it.

    The West, including the United States, has been ****ing over the people in the Middle East for over 60 years. We have assassinated their leaders, we have picked their new leaders, overthrown their governments, we have divided their countries, set new boundaries, killed their women and children, destroyed their infrastructures, armed regional nation against regional nation, provided logistics for one against the other, stolen the resources and occupied their lands. All in the name of truth, goodness and mercy? LOL! And you want to do it some more? Sign your butt back up and ship back over. You are a rare war dog, indeed.

    How do you determine evil in such a way that it doesn't include the West's actions?

    The best thing we can do for America, my country, is to get the hell out of the Middle East for good. Let them handle their own problems just as we prefer to handle our own problems. Or would you have no problem in other nations doing "for" us what we have done "for" them for the last 60+ years?
    Here are the instructions that will help you achieve your goal of global harmony that you would agree with.
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    2. Place your head in the ground
    3. Pull excess dirt around the empty spots so as to close them off
    4. Congratulations! You have now accomplished global harmony.

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    Re: Why Wasn't Iraq Colonized?

    Quote Originally Posted by comedy4all View Post
    Here are the instructions that will help you achieve your goal of global harmony that you would agree with.
    1. Dig a hole in the ground
    2. Place your head in the ground
    3. Pull excess dirt around the empty spots so as to close them off
    4. Congratulations! You have now accomplished global harmony.

    People are not perfect and they never will be. If you are waiting for a perfect solution than you will never find one.
    That's it? Classic avoidance.

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    Re: Why Wasn't Iraq Colonized?

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    That's it? Classic avoidance.
    Classic?
    I made that up myself.
    It’s NEW avoidance!


    Invading Iraq was still the right thing to do.
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    Why Wasn't Iraq Colonized?

    Quote Originally Posted by Das Sozialist View Post
    Please, enlighten me then. What am I wrong about?
    The idea that it was passed from one group of people to another by people who didn't own it. The region hasn't been controlled by its inhabitants since the Jews controlled it in BCE.

    So yeah, a bit more complex than colonialism or imperialism.

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    Re: Why Wasn't Iraq Colonized?

    When the neocons were still in office they should have just said screw public opinion and leveraged a 50or 75 year lease with the interm government we had in place for exclusive rights to all Iraqi oil exports. Explaining that this was just the beginning of a long and prosperous alliance with the Iraqi people after liberating them. We could've at least tried to secure the oil fields that we desperately need. Yes we would've had to keep a fairly significant force there, indefinitely just as security for the oil and shipping lanes. We let them have there civil war, then whatever type government or rule they decided on, would've had great wealth and a guarantee of protection from foreign states for the life of the lease.

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    Re: Why Wasn't Iraq Colonized?

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    The premise is absurd. We had no right, and really no reason, to invade the sovereign nation of Iraq. We certainly had no right, have no right to colonize other nations. Why would anyone even consider the question?
    We were perfectly within our right to invade Iraq. They were a threat to our security interests. And under the UN charter we have the right to defend ourselves. But thats different from then permanently aquiring it.

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    Re: Why Wasn't Iraq Colonized?

    The crazy thing is our arrogance allows us to believe that we didn't colonized Iraq because we choose not to for whatever reasons. Like the Iraqis would just leave or allow us to just take there home. They're very proud and faithful people and they would never stop fighting us. So Unless we planned on killing 30M Iraqi, they would eventually win. And that's just the Iraqi people all the other mideast countries with 60 70% unemployment got plenty of young men with nothing better to do would be fighting us also.

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