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Thread: Why Wasn't Iraq Colonized?

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    Re: Why Wasn't Iraq Colonized?

    do you know smthng about globalization?

    it is the new form of colonizing...........



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    Re: Why Wasn't Iraq Colonized?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    do you know smthng about globalization?

    it is the new form of colonizing...........



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    Exactly. The premise of this thread is false. Iraq was colonized. It was crypto-colonized.

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    Re: Why Wasn't Iraq Colonized?

    Love your question. It actually was along with about half of the world from Christopher Columbus to the end of WWII, but I know you're talking about after the overthrow of Saddam Hussein. Interestingly, colonization and its residual effects are at the very least a key ingredient in much of the world's conflict today. Its hard to find anyplace on earth with unfortunate geo-political turmoil where that cannot be in someway traced back to colonialism as one factor in that turmoil.

    - Unnatural borders creating new nations of people who would otherwise have very little in common.
    - Societies emerging from colonialism engaging in power struggles over who's going to run things after the colonial power left often leading to the revolving door civil war.
    - The colonial power granting limited autonomy to their former colony but wanting to keep the valuable natural resources. Once the former colony says that's okay we'll keep the natural resources. Not willing to relinquish the natural resources, the former colonial power covertly overthrows the democratically elected government of their former colony and installs a puppet dictator. After decades of iron fisted rule the local population kicks out the puppet dictator and replaces him with an extremist government.
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    Re: Why Wasn't Iraq Colonized?

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    Serious answers only please. This is not a troll thread.

    That is not a sarcastic comment (ad infinitum).
    It's because colonialism tends to be pretty bad. Especially those who are colonized.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Why Wasn't Iraq Colonized?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    It's because colonialism tends to be pretty bad. Especially those who are colonized.
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    Re: Why Wasn't Iraq Colonized?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    What a childish, cartoon version of history you attempt to foist there, boy.

    Try learing a little real history instead of just repeating one stupid meme after another.
    Please, enlighten me then. What am I wrong about?

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    Re: Why Wasn't Iraq Colonized?

    It was - by the Brits.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

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    Re: Why Wasn't Iraq Colonized?

    Quote Originally Posted by comedy4all View Post
    I do not know the reasons that the people that made the decision to go in to Iraq truly held during the time, but it was an action that needed to happen.

    Iraq under Saddam Hussein was known for its severe violations of human rights. Secret police, torture, mass murder, rape, deportations, forced disappearances, assassinations, chemical warfare, and the destruction of southern Iraq's marshes were some of the methods the country's Ba'athist government used to maintain control. The total number of deaths related to torture and murder during this period are unknown. Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International issued regular reports of widespread imprisonment and torture.

    To stand by while evil men do evil thing to innocent people because it is a “sovereign nation” is just wrong.
    Talk to me about Tibet. Where is your advocacy there? Or perhaps I should say, why isn't your advocacy there.

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    Re: Why Wasn't Iraq Colonized?

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    That's all it takes. If it was a lie; then what do you suppose was going on over there? "liberty" that's a lie. it hasn't happened nor was it intended to. Iraq is now like Afghanistan.
    To be honest I always thought it was because Bush had some kind of vendetta because of daddy. In reality it is probably a whole slew of reasons that are classified for years. I am certain oil had something to do with it, as an after thought. Because we got nothing out of the oil, nothing at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    And I'm not blowing anything up your ass. And you know nothing about human history, as the invasions of countries for their natural rescources has been going on since the time of the Romans. So your insults are really not helping you.
    You mean like Korea or Vietnam? Oh wait, those wars had nothing to do with natural resources on our part. Many wars through history have had nothing to do with resources.

    Acting like that is the only reason and having little to no evidence to back up your claim does noting to help your claims.

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    I have shown you evidense that verifies my argument. if you can't compete with it, then I can't help you any further.
    LMAO! You have shown evidence that says we don't know the real reasons, that's as far as it goes. Your statement as I have shown is factually wrong. No way around that.

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    Re: Why Wasn't Iraq Colonized?

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Talk to me about Tibet. Where is your advocacy there? Or perhaps I should say, why isn't your advocacy there.
    Deflection??

    This thread is about Iraq not Tibet. I do believe that my statement;
    “To stand by while evil men do evil thing to innocent people because it is a “sovereign nation” is just wrong”
    Applies to all similar situations.
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