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Thread: Why Wasn't Iraq Colonized?

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    Re: Why Wasn't Iraq Colonized?

    Basically, it's this: the age of colonies ended after WWII.

    Realistically, I can't picture that anybody else in the world would have put up with the United States going in and replacing their dictator with a colonial dictator. It also wouldn't go along with Bush's narrative that we were helping Iraqis by freeing them from Saddam ("Yay, we're free....sort of.")


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    Re: Why Wasn't Iraq Colonized?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Basically, it's this: the age of colonies ended after WWII.

    Realistically, I can't picture that anybody else in the world would have put up with the United States going in and replacing their dictator with a colonial dictator. It also wouldn't go along with Bush's narrative that we were helping Iraqis by freeing them from Saddam ("Yay, we're free....sort of.")
    You think anybody else in the world would stop the United States from doing so?

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    Re: Why Wasn't Iraq Colonized?

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    Serious answers only please. This is not a troll thread.

    That is not a sarcastic comment (ad infinitum).
    Even though we have the power to do take Iraq and several other nations and keep them for ourselves. The reason we don't do that may be best described by Colin Powell:

    "...Far from being the Great Satan, I would say that we are the Great Protector. We have sent men and women from the armed forces of the United States to other parts of the world throughout the past century to put down oppression. We defeated Fascism. We defeated Communism. We saved Europe in World War I and World War II. We were willing to do it, glad to do it. We went to Korea. We went to Vietnam. All in the interest of preserving the rights of people.

    And when all those conflicts were over, what did we do? Did we stay and conquer? Did we say, "Okay, we defeated Germany. Now Germany belongs to us? We defeated Japan, so Japan belongs to us"? No. What did we do? We built them up. We gave them democratic systems which they have embraced totally to their soul. And did we ask for any land? No, the only land we ever asked for was enough land to bury our dead. And that is the kind of nation we are."

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    Re: Why Wasn't Iraq Colonized?

    Moral concerns aside, you aren't going to exploit Iraq oil when the angry populace is busy sabotaging all the necessary infrastructure. If you can't get the oil, why bother going? Furthermore, if really wanted Iraqi oil, there was no point in invasion, we could have just lifted the sanctions and bought it.

    You would hard pressed to find a single example of a country who actually profited from starting a war since WW2.

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    Re: Why Wasn't Iraq Colonized?

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    Serious answers only please. This is not a troll thread.

    That is not a sarcastic comment (ad infinitum).
    An entrenched populace fighting a foreign invader, that's why. It's not possible to keep that population under Western control, they don't like it and we don't live there. It's only a matter of time before the foreign invader goes home. We wrote the book on this tactic.
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    Re: Why Wasn't Iraq Colonized?

    Culturally, Arabs and Americans are too different. They are still locked in to a cycle of petty dictatorships, with no democratic revolutionary movement on the horizon. At best we could have replaced Hussein's brutal dictatorship with a slightly less brutal one. Humanitarians worldwide would have rightly condemned a move like that. Instead, we had close to a decade of pointless "nation building" with a recalcitrant and resentful population.

    But who knows? Changing the culture of a billion people isn't going to happen overnight. Maybe with this "Arab spring" the style of dictatorship of the past will morph into something authoritarian but less personality oriented, perhaps setting the stage in decades to come into a hybrid representational monarchy region wide.

    That, of course, is dependent on preventing Iran from getting the bomb. If they do, only WWIII will change the region.
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    Re: Why Wasn't Iraq Colonized?

    We did not colonize Iraq because the notion is stupid, end of story.

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    Re: Why Wasn't Iraq Colonized?

    colonialism is over. not to mention that the last thing we need is another colony. we can't even keep our own infrastructure maintained.

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    Re: Why Wasn't Iraq Colonized?

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    You think anybody else in the world would stop the United States from doing so?
    Probably not, but is being the modern day equivalent of the Nazi's something we want? (Not to Godwinize the thread. Trying to come up with another example that had the power to flaunt the international system in the past, and were universally hated).

    Essentially, our doing so would open up the door for the Russians and the Chinese to go depose a regime they don't like and establish a colony. We'd have restarted a new colonial age along with the resultant conflicts.


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    Re: Why Wasn't Iraq Colonized?

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    You think anybody else in the world would stop the United States from doing so?
    The locals would have something to say about it, I hear their opinion matters especially because they make their opinion known with AK-47s and IEDs.

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