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    Re: Why Wasn't Iraq Colonized?

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Your ignorance of history is quite profound. Colonization began with Napoleon you know. Then of course the English seized Exgypt leaving north Africa to the French.

    And this: just discredits everything you say.
    For centuries, North Africa was nothing but pirates and warlords, as there fellow Muslims in Somalia are today. Europeans put a stop to that; the only sure way was through colonization. They also built the Suez Canal, a natural duty towards international commerce infrastructure that the Muslims were never competent enough to undertake. Since independence, the world has gained nothing from Islam except oil price-gouging and terrorism. Reality and history discredit the appeasers.
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    Re: Why Wasn't Iraq Colonized?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    The Iraq War was about OIL. The OIL is now in the Central Distribution Network of Western Energy companies, think Exxon/Mobil, BP, Shell, Total, etc., and being traded in USDollars. The War was initiated and driven by an Energy Corporatocracy and successful in every way. The Military/Industrial/Energy triad profitted handsomely. Remember that wars run on energy, so wars make Big Energy big money. We're on OFFENSE. There is no such thing as Military Defense. Anyone that believes that the Iraq War had any high moral ground values needs to find truthful media and begin thinking for themselves. Those automatic thoughts generated by the "Mighty Wurlitzer" are bogus.
    Letting the Texxonites have the oil is as bad as letting the rabid Arab rabble control it. In fact, Big Oil set up OPEC to drain away the money and power of the American middle class.
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    Re: Why Wasn't Iraq Colonized?

    Quote Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then View Post
    Please. I'm somewhat mentally limited. The reason is that I'm a retired design engineer/systems architect. And I'm probably not the only one that has this issue when they see functional claims. So for us, please support the "then gasoline would only cost 12 cents a gallon" claim. Thanks.
    That's what it cost in Venezuela. The price-gougers' apologists claim that Chavez is subsidizing it makes no sense. There's no way he could afford to lose $3.70 a gallon if oil were really worth what we suckers are being charged. Historical prices and profits indicate that Chavez is actually making a healthy profit at 12 cents. In the US in the 60s, it was 25 cents a gallon. Don't listen to "inflation-adjusted," which is still only 2 dollars. The controlled price of oil caused most of our inflation.
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    Re: Why Wasn't Iraq Colonized?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    sorry, but the opinion of one poster on a message board does not constitute "proof". If it did, I could claim anything and then when challenged to prove it...simply point them back to the post in which I made the claim.

    IOW, just because you say it's true doesn't make it true. as I said, I really don't give a rat's ass, just pointing out protocol.

    so to answer your question...yes, I would want a link. then if the challenger wants to argue over the link...that's their problem. you would have done your part and the onus would then be on them to disprove your link/source
    So basically a link just makes you feel better. not that you'll beleive the facts presented at all?

    I get it.

    Carry on.

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    Re: Why Wasn't Iraq Colonized?

    Originally Posted by DaveFagan
    The Iraq War was about OIL. The OIL is now in the Central Distribution Network of Western Energy companies, think Exxon/Mobil, BP, Shell, Total, etc., and being traded in USDollars. The War was initiated and driven by an Energy Corporatocracy and successful in every way. The Military/Industrial/Energy triad profitted handsomely. Remember that wars run on energy, so wars make Big Energy big money. We're on OFFENSE. There is no such thing as Military Defense. Anyone that believes that the Iraq War had any high moral ground values needs to find truthful media and begin thinking for themselves. Those automatic thoughts generated by the "Mighty Wurlitzer" are bogus.
    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    Really? Prove it.
    The Iraq War was about OIL. The OIL is now in the Central Distribution Network of Western Energy companies, think Exxon/Mobil, BP, Shell, Total, etc., and being traded in USDollars.
    If the US was not allowed any Iraq OIL and it was still trading in Euros, this statement would be false, but that is what was
    changed by the war.
    The War was initiated and driven by an Energy Corporatocracy and successful in every way. The Military/Industrial/Energy triad profitted handsomely.
    It is the American way to promote endeavors that make increased Corporate bottom lines and if you build weapons, war materials
    or the fuel for these weapons and materials then you promote wars to increase profit. The American Way.
    Remember that wars run on energy, so wars make Big Energy big money.
    Common sense. Planes, tanks, hummers, ships, etc. don't move without fuel.
    We're on OFFENSE. There is no such thing as Military Defense.
    We invaded Iraq. No threat to us. No WMDs.
    Anyone that believes that the Iraq War had any high moral ground values needs to find truthful media and begin thinking for themselves. Those automatic thoughts generated by the "Mighty Wurlitzer" are bogus.
    If you believed those WMD horror stories, your media is to blame. Then there were the "curveball" lies. Judith Miller
    misinformation.

    I can't help it if your mind is micromanaged. It is up to you to find truth and break away from the mind massagers.

    I haven't used links because this is simply common sense and Corporatism, no links required.

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    Re: Why Wasn't Iraq Colonized?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    The post is exactly factual, needs no proof. You might try proving any statement in the post to be false. Good luck.
    All I asked for was proof, since you speak like something is a fact it shouldnt be hard for you to produce those facts. In fact in order for you to know such things you have bookmarked where you learned those things from. Instead you dodge the challenge proving that you were only sharing opinion. Why not cease the opportunity to prove everyone wrong?

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    Re: Why Wasn't Iraq Colonized?

    Quote Originally Posted by 4Horsemen View Post
    Right. all we want is the OIL.
    Then annex the oilfields only, put a no-man's land corridor around that territory and let the Iraqis go back to the territory they deserve, where they can continue their sectarian violence and unfitness for the modern world. Nation-building was a multiculturalist delusion.
    On the outside, trickling down on the insiders.
    We won't live free until the 1% live in fear.
    Hey, richboys! Imagine the boot of democracy stomping on your faces, forever.

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    Re: Why Wasn't Iraq Colonized?

    Quote Originally Posted by PrometheusBound View Post
    Then annex the oilfields only, put a no-man's land corridor around that territory and let the Iraqis go back to the territory they deserve, where they can continue their sectarian violence and unfitness for the modern world. Nation-building was a multiculturalist delusion.
    I'm sure the Governments that are pillaging the Oil (America,Brittan, China, Saudi, Iran,Turkey,Africa) will think of something before the local radical factions catch on.

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    Re: Why Wasn't Iraq Colonized?

    Quote Originally Posted by 4Horsemen View Post
    I'm sure the Governments that are pillaging the Oil (America,Brittan, China, Saudi, Iran,Turkey,Africa) will think of something before the local radical factions catch on.
    The US did not get any oil. It did not get any drilling contracts. It did not get any processing contracts. It did not get any transport contracts.

    Saddam spent all the money on weapons development, rape, murder and genocide. Even if Iraqis get nothing from the oil, they're better off.

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    Re: Why Wasn't Iraq Colonized?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Originally Posted by DaveFagan
    The Iraq War was about OIL. The OIL is now in the Central Distribution Network of Western Energy companies, think Exxon/Mobil, BP, Shell, Total, etc., and being traded in USDollars. The War was initiated and driven by an Energy Corporatocracy and successful in every way. The Military/Industrial/Energy triad profitted handsomely. Remember that wars run on energy, so wars make Big Energy big money. We're on OFFENSE. There is no such thing as Military Defense. Anyone that believes that the Iraq War had any high moral ground values needs to find truthful media and begin thinking for themselves. Those automatic thoughts generated by the "Mighty Wurlitzer" are bogus.


    The Iraq War was about OIL. The OIL is now in the Central Distribution Network of Western Energy companies, think Exxon/Mobil, BP, Shell, Total, etc., and being traded in USDollars.
    If the US was not allowed any Iraq OIL and it was still trading in Euros, this statement would be false, but that is what was
    changed by the war.
    The War was initiated and driven by an Energy Corporatocracy and successful in every way. The Military/Industrial/Energy triad profitted handsomely.
    It is the American way to promote endeavors that make increased Corporate bottom lines and if you build weapons, war materials
    or the fuel for these weapons and materials then you promote wars to increase profit. The American Way.
    Remember that wars run on energy, so wars make Big Energy big money.
    Common sense. Planes, tanks, hummers, ships, etc. don't move without fuel.
    We're on OFFENSE. There is no such thing as Military Defense.
    We invaded Iraq. No threat to us. No WMDs.
    Anyone that believes that the Iraq War had any high moral ground values needs to find truthful media and begin thinking for themselves. Those automatic thoughts generated by the "Mighty Wurlitzer" are bogus.
    If you believed those WMD horror stories, your media is to blame. Then there were the "curveball" lies. Judith Miller
    misinformation.

    I can't help it if your mind is micromanaged. It is up to you to find truth and break away from the mind massagers.

    I haven't used links because this is simply common sense and Corporatism, no links required.

    I really do not see why you cannot just give us links like this: operations . It clearly shows that Exxon/Mobile has contracts with Iraq for oil. But you will be hard pressed to prove that such deals were the purpose of the Iraq war. In fact there is no proof to be had unless you have some proof that no one else in the world has been able to find?

    Exxon | Iraq Business News "Last year it prohibited Exxon from an exploration tender after it circumvented Baghdad to do business directly in Kurdistan. This July it banned Chevron from signing deals in the rest of Iraq after the oil giant bought stakes in oil businesses in Kurdistan." Its funny that if a war was fought for the sole purpose of obtaining oil how could the oil companies get banned?

    And why would Iraq need to make Gas Exploration Deals more Attractive if the US oil companies are in control of Iraq oil because of a war fought for that control?

    Iraq to make Gas Exploration Deals more Attractive | Iraq Business News

    Iraq is selling its own oil through contracts with corporations that have the know how and the money to pay them. End result Iraq is the winner not the US.

    However, this summer, deputy prime minister for energy, Hussain al-Shahristani, had an incensed meeting with Exxon. Baghdad has also warned oil companies that they face having all oil contracts made throughout Iraq rescinded if they do business directly with the north.


    Clearly Iraq alone is in control THEIR oil. Which also indicates that Iraq is not our puppet by any means. Which points out that the war for oil conspiracy theory has no teeth.

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