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    Re: Why Wasn't Iraq Colonized?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben K. View Post
    The idea that it was passed from one group of people to another by people who didn't own it. The region hasn't been controlled by its inhabitants since the Jews controlled it in BCE.

    So yeah, a bit more complex than colonialism or imperialism.
    The Palestinian Arabs, who are a collection of mutually hostile clans and not a united people anyway, never had an independent country. By not fighting for independence from Turkey, they forfeited their rights to the land. The Israelis fought against the British and the outside Arabs and deserved their independence.
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    Re: Why Wasn't Iraq Colonized?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    my point is, the major reason we don't/didn't/will never colonize Iraq is....where the hell would you find american "colonists" willing to live there? the place is a ****hole and even the Iraqis don't want to live there. why the hell do you think it is so easy for the terrorists to recruit suicide bombers? they'd rather be dead and give their families a little $$$$ than keep on living there.
    I know America would never colonize Iraq or ever want to. I know it's a god forsaken ****hole. You said if The USA wanted to they could colonize Iraq. I was explaining why I don't believe they could.

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    Re: Why Wasn't Iraq Colonized?

    Quote Originally Posted by JoshuaW View Post
    When the neocons were still in office they should have just said screw public opinion and leveraged a 50or 75 year lease with the interm government we had in place for exclusive rights to all Iraqi oil exports. Explaining that this was just the beginning of a long and prosperous alliance with the Iraqi people after liberating them. We could've at least tried to secure the oil fields that we desperately need. Yes we would've had to keep a fairly significant force there, indefinitely just as security for the oil and shipping lanes. We let them have there civil war, then whatever type government or rule they decided on, would've had great wealth and a guarantee of protection from foreign states for the life of the lease.
    What is the benefit to us in having the exclusive right to be gouged on oil that cost less than $5 a barrel to produce? It's probably more like 50 cents a barrel (a penny a gallon), which someone in the industry blurted out on national TV.

    What a wimpy pushover attitude we have towards property owners! We should not allow property rights to be abused like this. Of course, the real reason is that American oil companies piggyback off these outrageous prices. Treason like that is cause for nationalization, in addition to annexation of Arab rabble's unearned oil property.

    Back to the Saudis in Stetsons at home, who want all the rest of us to live like Third World peasants. What if we let such greedheads own our water? So why should we let them own our other vital resources if they abuse the privilege
    so much? And ownership is a privilege, not a right free from forfeiture. When will Americans get some backbone and tell these liars and cheats that they don't make the rules any more?
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    Re: Why Wasn't Iraq Colonized?

    Quote Originally Posted by JoshuaW View Post
    I know America would never colonize Iraq or ever want to. I know it's a god forsaken ****hole. You said if The USA wanted to they could colonize Iraq. I was explaining why I don't believe they could.
    and I was explaining how we could. just because the needed measure are extreme...doesn't mean it could not be done. we could send a man to mars. he would probably die on the way or shortly after getting there...but it does not change the fact that we could "send a man to mars"
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    Re: Why Wasn't Iraq Colonized?

    Quote Originally Posted by PrometheusBound View Post
    Self-determination for the rabid Arab rabble, which is determined to destroy us, has caused the problems. Without oil, they would be no threat to us. They'll go back to their time-honored tradition of sectarian warfare and self-genocide. Colonization kept the peace. The multiculturalist transnationalists turned loose this pre-historic horror, which will echo its howling back here at home more and more from now on.
    Your ignorance of history is quite profound. Colonization began with Napoleon you know. Then of course the English seized Exgypt leaving north Africa to the French.

    And this:
    Self-determination for the rabid Arab rabble, which is determined to destroy us
    just discredits everything you say.
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    Re: Why Wasn't Iraq Colonized?

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    Serious answers only please. This is not a troll thread.

    That is not a sarcastic comment (ad infinitum).
    Serious answers can only be preceded by serious questions. Yours did not qualify.
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    Re: Why Wasn't Iraq Colonized?

    Quote Originally Posted by PrometheusBound View Post
    You should be well rewarded for defending the bloated pigs of the Saudi plutocracy. Keep supporting the sheeple's free-market fleece market and maybe someday you can join them.
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    Re: Why Wasn't Iraq Colonized?

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    Serious answers only please. This is not a troll thread.

    That is not a sarcastic comment (ad infinitum).
    Serious answer? Because Americans don't have the brain power to occupy more than one country at a time.
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    Re: Why Wasn't Iraq Colonized?

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    Serious answers only please. This is not a troll thread.

    That is not a sarcastic comment (ad infinitum).
    The Iraq War was about OIL. The OIL is now in the Central Distribution Network of Western Energy companies, think Exxon/Mobil, BP, Shell, Total, etc., and being traded in USDollars. The War was initiated and driven by an Energy Corporatocracy and successful in every way. The Military/Industrial/Energy triad profitted handsomely. Remember that wars run on energy, so wars make Big Energy big money. We're on OFFENSE. There is no such thing as Military Defense. Anyone that believes that the Iraq War had any high moral ground values needs to find truthful media and begin thinking for themselves. Those automatic thoughts generated by the "Mighty Wurlitzer" are bogus.

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    Re: Why Wasn't Iraq Colonized?

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    Serious answers only please. This is not a troll thread.

    That is not a sarcastic comment (ad infinitum).
    It wasn't invaded to be colonized, it was innvaded to oust Saddamm and take control of the Oil pipeline that runs through Iraq.

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