View Poll Results: Has America become numb to troop deaths in Afghanistan

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    Re: War-weary US is numbed to drumbeat of troop deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    WASHINGTON (AP) —" It was another week at war in Afghanistan, another string of American casualties, and another collective shrug by a nation weary of a faraway conflict whose hallmark is its grinding inconclusiveness."

    War-weary US is numbed to drumbeat of troop deaths - Yahoo! News

    This article says we have become numb to troop deaths but I don't think so. I think the media is ignoring troop deaths because they support obama and try to sweep this under the rug so we are not numb we are just not being informed and reminded of the casualty rates we are suffering.
    God, I hope we're not numb. I think we may actually be more aware of our troops' sacrifices than in any other war since WWII. That's a good thing. What I think we miss out on is just focusing on deaths. Men and women are coming home sans arms and legs, with brain damage . . . people whose lives will be forever altered . . . coming back with PTSD. At least we recognize PTSD now and try to help, but do we do enough?

    I hope we never-ever-EVER get involved in another war where we don't/can't bring down the full force of our military might on our enemy. WTF good does it do to have all these weapons of war when we can't use them? If we can't use them? Let's just stay home. K?
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    Re: War-weary US is numbed to drumbeat of troop deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    That isn't so. Nixon began withdrawing troops and setting up for an end to hostilities the moment he took office. He didn't just want to, because he knew he couldn't politically, just DiDi out of there. He had to set the stage. And I apologise, it took him three years to end that conflict, not one. Have you forgotten, Nixon was a quaker.
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    Re: War-weary US is numbed to drumbeat of troop deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    Yes, and he was trustworthy and never lied.
    Your view of the man and his veracity doesn't counter the facts that he started troop withdrawl upon taking office. He did his best to not strand the rest as he worked to end that conflict. There's a lot to hate about Nixon, but there's a lot to love too.

    But none of that should take the light off the original point - that Obama made a promise he didn't keep, still hasn't kept and dreaming that he may keep it in the future is just that, a dream. Especially since he'd be a second termer who is under NO political obligation to keep ANY promise.

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    Re: War-weary US is numbed to drumbeat of troop deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    That isn't so. Nixon began withdrawing troops and setting up for an end to hostilities the moment he took office. He didn't just want to, because he knew he couldn't politically, just DiDi out of there. He had to set the stage. And I apologise, it took him three years to end that conflict, not one. Have you forgotten, Nixon was a quaker.
    I wouldn't attribute his and Kissinger's negotiation strategy to Quakerism.
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    Re: War-weary US is numbed to drumbeat of troop deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    WASHINGTON (AP) " It was another week at war in Afghanistan, another string of American casualties, and another collective shrug by a nation weary of a faraway conflict whose hallmark is its grinding inconclusiveness."

    War-weary US is numbed to drumbeat of troop deaths - Yahoo! News

    This article says we have become numb to troop deaths but I don't think so. I think the media is ignoring troop deaths because they support obama and try to sweep this under the rug so we are not numb we are just not being informed and reminded of the casualty rates we are suffering.

    I think most people just understand that troop casualties are something that happens in war.
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    Re: War-weary US is numbed to drumbeat of troop deaths

    People are too disconnected from the war.

    Hell, I don't even know anyone personally that has even gone to Iraq/Afghanistan period. Just an old classmate's dad I never actually met. The closest way I've been connected to a casualty is apparently someone who went to my old high school that was killed in Iraq.

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    Re: War-weary US is numbed to drumbeat of troop deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire X View Post
    People are too disconnected from the war.

    Hell, I don't even know anyone personally that has even gone to Iraq/Afghanistan period. Just an old classmate's dad I never actually met. The closest way I've been connected to a casualty is apparently someone who went to my old high school that was killed in Iraq.
    we were pretty connected when the media was actually reporting on it.... they stopped focusing on the war(s) about 3 years ago.

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    Re: War-weary US is numbed to drumbeat of troop deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I think most people just understand that troop casualties are something that happens in war.
    When Bush was president and the Iraq surge was going on all you heard about on the nightly news was how many US troops were being killed. Now the media pretty much ignores the casualty count even though it was higher in obamas Afghan surge than it was in the Iraq surge. This is no coincidence and this is not about people getting used to our soldiers being killed, it is about the liberal media covering the wars under obama and Bush in an entirely different fashion. The truth is the media is doing all it can to shade the news to favor obama just as they did to portray Bush in the worst possible light.. Americans have not become numb they are just not being told about US casualties and I'll bet most think there are far fewer in Afghanistan under obama than there were under Bush.


    CNSNews.com) - Two-thirds of U.S. military fatalities in the decade-long Afghan war have occurred since May 15, 2009, when the first wave of the troop surge ordered by President Barack Obama arrived in Afghanistan.

    "The 1,180 U.S. military fatalities in Afghanistan reported between May 15, 2009 and today account for approximately 66 percent of the total of 1,792 U.S. military fatalities in that country since the beginning of the war in October 2001, according to CNSNews.com’s database of all fatalities in the war."


    More US Troop Deaths in Afghanistan Under Obama Than Bush
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    As early as August of 2010, the number of American soldiers, who had died in Afghanistan under Barack Obama, surpassed the number of troops that died under George W. Bush’s authority. Think about it: In less than two years, Obama’s actions have resulted in the deaths of more Americans in Afghanistan than in eight years of Bush’s Presidency.

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    Re: War-weary US is numbed to drumbeat of troop deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    WASHINGTON (AP) —" It was another week at war in Afghanistan, another string of American casualties, and another collective shrug by a nation weary of a faraway conflict whose hallmark is its grinding inconclusiveness."

    War-weary US is numbed to drumbeat of troop deaths - Yahoo! News

    This article says we have become numb to troop deaths but I don't think so. I think the media is ignoring troop deaths because they support obama and try to sweep this under the rug so we are not numb we are just not being informed and reminded of the casualty rates we are suffering.
    Yes and no.

    We have become numb in the sense that we hear new numbers everyday and likely don't feel the same amount of emotion as we did at the beginning. In fact, I don't think it would be healthy to be emotionally invested in every report of troop deaths anymore than it would be to be so for all the other types of death that happen every day. The world would be miserable and live would be a waste.

    We haven't become numb in the sense that hearing about people dying is still something that affects us and that we don't want to happen. We also haven't become numb in the sense that if we focus how many people have died instead going about our day, it would probably be painful, especially if we're focused on a single person's life, family and general story. I also think most people would prefer that the remaining troops could come home alive as soon as possible which means that people certainly still care a lot.

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    Re: War-weary US is numbed to drumbeat of troop deaths

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    God, I hope we're not numb. I think we may actually be more aware of our troops' sacrifices than in any other war since WWII. That's a good thing. What I think we miss out on is just focusing on deaths. Men and women are coming home sans arms and legs, with brain damage . . . people whose lives will be forever altered . . . coming back with PTSD. At least we recognize PTSD now and try to help, but do we do enough?

    I hope we never-ever-EVER get involved in another war where we don't/can't bring down the full force of our military might on our enemy. WTF good does it do to have all these weapons of war when we can't use them? If we can't use them? Let's just stay home. K?
    Good point.

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