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Thread: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    In any country in the world, US included, he's a capitalist.
    Who?

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Grades 1 through 4. Yes. Those were the beginnings of his formative years.
    Four years in a country isn't enough to mold you into who you are, especially not at that age.

    He is a foreigner in many ways. He is anti capitalism. That is foreign.
    Anti-Capitalism, how? Has he rid of competitive markets, capital accumulation, and wage labor?

    He is anti-individualism. That is foreign.
    Again, how? What has he done that makes him anti-Individualist?

    He is damaging the US. For a president that too, is foreign.
    Again, how? Elaborate, you're just saying things without providing any proof.

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by OnWisconsin View Post
    He did win the first election didn't he? So shouldn't he be allowed to at least put forward his agenda? I mean when Bush was in there, he ran things far more like a dictator than Obama has.

    When you win an election you get to run things the way you see fit. The people put you in there for a reason, not to pander to the other side and ask them like a big softy "what do you think we should do"
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    We, like the Former Soviet Union, have a written Constitution. I am sorry we decided to stop using it.

    The one term Marxist flexible president Barrack Hussein Obama heads the Executive branch of the Federal government. He is a steward. He does not own us nor does he own the US. We are not his. He works for us.

    And he needs to be sent along to play with the Great Prevaricator, the impeached president, BJ "Slick Willie" Clinton.

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Marxist/Collectivist would be a more appropriate label

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    some facts, lots of assumptions/conclusions based on opinion, and some more opinion.
    Like I said the conspiracy forum is lower on the home page
    say what ever you want, I read all this stuff and tons more like it, i dont share your assumptions and opinions based off of some of the facts above, not going to change that either because thats all it is, lots of your opinion based off of some facts.
    To be clear you are not refuting the statements 1, 2, and 3 above. You just don't like where they lead you.

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    How much did your chalk board cost you?
    I use white boards, computers and tablets. Books too.

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    What does being a capitalist have to do with my comment? I was talking about whether he's a conservative or not.

    Way to snip a small part of my comment to make your case, dude.
    Well, from the point of view of a socialist or communist, the two terms are intimately related. All capitalists are conservative because they seek to conserve inequality, exploitation and injustice. Of course there are different flavours of capitalist and of conservative, but neither Obama nor his right-wing opponents can claim that he is anything other than a capitalist, and hence a conservative too. He clearly wishes to retain and preserve traditional institutions such as the clearly corrupted and unrepresentative system of 'liberal democracy'. He also wishes to ensure that social change proceed along very incremental, gradualist lines. He has neither attempted nor even advocated anything remotely radical or revolutionary during his political career.
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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Tell you what Obama is...



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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    I use white boards, computers and tablets. Books too.

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    To be clear you are not refuting the statements 1, 2, and 3 above. You just don't like where they lead you.
    I dont have to refute them because they dont need refuted LOL

    I just factually identified them, they dont lead "me" anywhere, you are describing where they lead "you" and thats my point

    your conclusions based off of your opinion are meaningless to me
    you are free to have them but thats it, the conclusions you draw form them arent facts

    Im ok with that, for some reason you seem not to be ok with that, you want it to ALL be accepted as fact, but its not
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