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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Yes.
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    Ok, I thought you were trying to make one of the arguments I often see here which goes along the lines of "if its not conservative, its communist/socialist/fascist/etc"

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    I said, "He spent his formative years surrounded by Marxists, Communists, socialists, Progressives, and liberals. He even managed to find time to hang around with radicals and terrorists. He grew up in Indonesia, an Islamic nation. He is anti-American. He is a foreigner in many ways.

    He needs to go.

    We need to defeat him so he and the impeached president "Slick willie" can hang around together."

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    I think you are looking for the conspiracy forum lol
    Let's take these one at a time to see where we disagree:
    1. He spent his formative years surrounded by Marxists, Communists, socialists, Progressives, and liberals.
    However, as shown in Dreams from My Real Father, Barack Obama in fact has a deeply disturbing family background, which he intentionally hid, in order to obscure a Marxist political foundation. While voters will overlook some fudging by politicians, promoting a false family background to hide a Marxist agenda irreconcilable with American values is a totally unacceptable manipulation of the electorate.

    At age 18, Barack Obama admittedly arrived at Occidental College a committed revolutionary Marxist. Based on Obama’s own accounts, there can be no doubt that Frank Marshall Davis, a Communist Party USA Propagandist, and former Soviet Agent, indoctrinated Obama with a Marxist world view during his formative years. This is a known phenomenon amongst the radical left, referred to as “Red Diaper Babies” or “hand-me-down Marxism.” Much of the leadership of the SDS and Weather Underground were children of Communist Party USA members, including Katherine Boudin, Jeff Jones, and many more. David Axelrod is also a “Red Diaper Baby”, his mother was a Red journalist.
    The Vetting: ‘Obama, Radical Islam and the Soros Connection’! - Tea Party Command Center

    2. He even managed to find time to hang around with radicals and terrorists.
    It is imperative for us not to underestimate the Statist-Marxist influence the unabashed card-carrying member of the Communist Party, Frank Marshall Davis had on Barack Obama during his formative teenage years in Hawaii.

    At Occidental, Columbia and Harvard, Obama tells us he surrounded himself with Marxists professors, structural feminists, Franz Fanon and other radical socialists and big government advocates. After Harvard Obama’s tutelage was with disciples of Marxist Saul Alinsky as he learned the ropes of revolutionary “rules for radicals” in the communities of Chicago. In 1998, Illinois State Senator Barack Obama was not only an honored guest to watch the play The Love Song of Saul Alinsky, he was a spokes person for the play and defended the cultural Marxist worldview of Alinsky.
    A Tale of Two Visions: America
    3. He grew up in Indonesia, an Islamic nation.
    In October 1967, Obama and his mother moved to Jakarta to rejoin his stepfather. Obama, his mother and his stepfather initially lived in a rented house at 16 Kyai Haji Ramli Tengah Street in a newly built neighborhood in the Menteng Dalam administrative village of the Tebet subdistrict in South Jakarta for two and a half years, with his stepfather working on a topographic survey for the Indonesian government.[19][20] From January 1968 to December 1969, Obama's mother taught English and was an assistant director of the U.S. government-subsidized Indonesia-America Friendship Institute,[21] while Obama attended the Indonesian-language Santo Fransiskus Asisi (St. Francis of Assisi) Catholic School around the corner from their house for 1st, 2nd, and part of 3rd grade.[19]
    In 1970, Obama's stepfather's financial situation was improved by a new job in Union Oil Company's government relations office,[8][22][23][24] and the family moved two miles north to 22 Taman Amir Hamzah Street in the Matraman Dalam neighborhood in the Pegangsaan administrative village of the Menteng subdistrict in Central Jakarta.[19][25] From January 1970 to August 1972, Obama's mother taught English and was a department head and a director of the Institute of Management Education and Development,[21] while Obama attended the Indonesian-language government-run Besuki School, one and half miles east in the exclusive Menteng administrative village, for part of 3rd grade and for 4th grade,[19]
    Early life and career of Barack Obama - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    4. He is anti-American.
    5. He is a foreigner in many ways.
    6. He needs to go.
    7. We need to defeat him so he and the impeached president "Slick willie" can hang around together.

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    So in your world, people should solely be judged by the company they keep. Quick, someone tell Jesus...

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    While I agree he needs to go, I don't agree with your over-the-top rhetoric on why. For me, it's enough that he wants to implement the liberal agenda and grow the government.
    There is nothing over the top about facts.
    He spent his formative years in the hands of Marxists. He clearly believes that the government is the answer to every problem. He violates the Constitution with impunity (separation of powers).
    He said he could be more flexible with the Russia's strong man Putin after the election.

    He is a bad man. He must be defeated.

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    While I agree he needs to go, I don't agree with your over-the-top rhetoric on why. For me, it's enough that he wants to implement the liberal agenda and grow the government.
    He did win the first election didn't he? So shouldn't he be allowed to at least put forward his agenda? I mean when Bush was in there, he ran things far more like a dictator than Obama has.

    When you win an election you get to run things the way you see fit. The people put you in there for a reason, not to pander to the other side and ask them like a big softy "what do you think we should do"
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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    Lol wut. Btw bush and the bin laden family used to be tight. What about Rumsfeld and Saddam sitting in the parlor smokin' cigars?
    Did Bush spend his formative years living is Saudi Arabia, attending a Madrassa?
    Did Rumsfeld seek out Hussein to be best buds with during his college years?

    It is no shame to be unable to connect even the most obvious of dots.

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Das Sozialist View Post
    Care to name some of them?
    The one term Marxist flexible president Barrack Hussein Obama names them in his book. See some of my other posts.

    He lived there for four years. Do you consider that 'growing up' there?
    Grades 1 through 4. Yes. Those were the beginnings of his formative years.

    Do you mind elaborating? How is he anti-American and a foreigner?
    Anti-American first. His driving philosophy is strongly influenced by Karl Marx. Radical Karl: His ideas played a significant role in the development of social science and the socialist movement. He published various books during his lifetime, with the most notable being The Communist Manifesto (1848) and Capital (1867–1894); some of his works were co-written with his friend and fellow German revolutionary socialist, Friedrich Engels.[4] Karl Marx - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Radical Barrack and Radical Karl are like two peas in a pod. He is not just un-American, he is actively against the US.
    He is a foreigner in many ways. He is anti capitalism. That is foreign. He is anti-individualism. That is foreign. He is damaging the US. For a president that too, is foreign.

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by zstep18 View Post
    But liberals are socialist! (sarcasm)
    With the exception of the sarcasm that is the liberal tendency.

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    I said, "He spent his formative years surrounded by Marxists, Communists, socialists, Progressives, and liberals. He even managed to find time to hang around with radicals and terrorists. He grew up in Indonesia, an Islamic nation. He is anti-American. He is a foreigner in many ways.

    He needs to go.

    We need to defeat him so he and the impeached president "Slick willie" can hang around together."


    Let's take these one at a time to see where we disagree:
    1. He spent his formative years surrounded by Marxists, Communists, socialists, Progressives, and liberals.
    However, as shown in Dreams from My Real Father, Barack Obama in fact has a deeply disturbing family background, which he intentionally hid, in order to obscure a Marxist political foundation. While voters will overlook some fudging by politicians, promoting a false family background to hide a Marxist agenda irreconcilable with American values is a totally unacceptable manipulation of the electorate.

    At age 18, Barack Obama admittedly arrived at Occidental College a committed revolutionary Marxist. Based on Obama’s own accounts, there can be no doubt that Frank Marshall Davis, a Communist Party USA Propagandist, and former Soviet Agent, indoctrinated Obama with a Marxist world view during his formative years. This is a known phenomenon amongst the radical left, referred to as “Red Diaper Babies” or “hand-me-down Marxism.” Much of the leadership of the SDS and Weather Underground were children of Communist Party USA members, including Katherine Boudin, Jeff Jones, and many more. David Axelrod is also a “Red Diaper Baby”, his mother was a Red journalist.
    The Vetting: ‘Obama, Radical Islam and the Soros Connection’! - Tea Party Command Center

    2. He even managed to find time to hang around with radicals and terrorists.
    It is imperative for us not to underestimate the Statist-Marxist influence the unabashed card-carrying member of the Communist Party, Frank Marshall Davis had on Barack Obama during his formative teenage years in Hawaii.

    At Occidental, Columbia and Harvard, Obama tells us he surrounded himself with Marxists professors, structural feminists, Franz Fanon and other radical socialists and big government advocates. After Harvard Obama’s tutelage was with disciples of Marxist Saul Alinsky as he learned the ropes of revolutionary “rules for radicals” in the communities of Chicago. In 1998, Illinois State Senator Barack Obama was not only an honored guest to watch the play The Love Song of Saul Alinsky, he was a spokes person for the play and defended the cultural Marxist worldview of Alinsky.
    A Tale of Two Visions: America
    3. He grew up in Indonesia, an Islamic nation.
    In October 1967, Obama and his mother moved to Jakarta to rejoin his stepfather. Obama, his mother and his stepfather initially lived in a rented house at 16 Kyai Haji Ramli Tengah Street in a newly built neighborhood in the Menteng Dalam administrative village of the Tebet subdistrict in South Jakarta for two and a half years, with his stepfather working on a topographic survey for the Indonesian government.[19][20] From January 1968 to December 1969, Obama's mother taught English and was an assistant director of the U.S. government-subsidized Indonesia-America Friendship Institute,[21] while Obama attended the Indonesian-language Santo Fransiskus Asisi (St. Francis of Assisi) Catholic School around the corner from their house for 1st, 2nd, and part of 3rd grade.[19]
    In 1970, Obama's stepfather's financial situation was improved by a new job in Union Oil Company's government relations office,[8][22][23][24] and the family moved two miles north to 22 Taman Amir Hamzah Street in the Matraman Dalam neighborhood in the Pegangsaan administrative village of the Menteng subdistrict in Central Jakarta.[19][25] From January 1970 to August 1972, Obama's mother taught English and was a department head and a director of the Institute of Management Education and Development,[21] while Obama attended the Indonesian-language government-run Besuki School, one and half miles east in the exclusive Menteng administrative village, for part of 3rd grade and for 4th grade,[19]
    Early life and career of Barack Obama - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    4. He is anti-American.
    5. He is a foreigner in many ways.
    6. He needs to go.
    7. We need to defeat him so he and the impeached president "Slick willie" can hang around together.
    some facts, lots of assumptions/conclusions based on opinion, and some more opinion.

    Like I said the conspiracy forum is lower on the home page

    say what ever you want, I read all this stuff and tons more like it, i dont share your assumptions and opinions based off of some of the facts above, not going to change that either because thats all it is, lots of your opinion based off of some facts.
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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by zstep18 View Post
    So, he's a Communist, in addition to being an ant-American Islamic fundamentalist, foreigner? Wow.

    You might as well just call him Satan.
    I cannot recall ever saying that BHO is a Communist. That would be silly as he is a Democrat.

    No, he is very strongly influenced by the Marxism, socialism, and Progressivism he was steeped in during his early life. He intentionally cultivated his Marxist and radical ties through his college years.

    I did not say he was an Islamic fundamentalist. I did say he grew up in Islamic Indonesia (Jakarta). He was in Jakarta for grades 1-4.
    I did not say he was a foreigner. I did say in many ways he is foreign.

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