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Thread: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    That is interesting, but he is actually a planned economy socialist.
    On what do you base this ludicrous idea?
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by zstep18 View Post
    Right, so you believe the government should grow in regards to national defense, while others believe government should grow with regards to social policy. Which is more invasive, health care reform or the Patriot Act?
    Well, now...I don't think I said the government should grow in regards to national defense...regardless your attempt to put words in my mouth.

    However...when given a choice of whether a massive government program is desirable or not, I tend to come down, fundamentally, on the side of the Constitution.
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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by zstep18 View Post
    But liberals are socialist! (sarcasm)
    Liberals have no problem picking and choosing parts of both socialism and communism to justify their utopian, government-is-the-answer-to-all-our-problems world view.
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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Liberals have no problem picking and choosing parts of both socialism and communism to justify their utopian, government-is-the-answer-to-all-our-problems world view.
    Which, by definition, makes them not socialist, but liberal.

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Which, by definition, makes them not socialist, but liberal.
    Yes.
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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Obama's act of signing the Affordable Care Act was an act of crony Capitalism, not Socialism or Communism.

    Fining citizens if they don't buy a product from a private company, is a purely Capitalist act and perhaps the largest one ever committed in our history. Thirty million Americans spending $10,000 or more a year on insurance means a $300 billion every year to the health insurance companies. Surely this was as Capitalist an act as they come.

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Well, we aren't in most 1st world countries...
    Yeah, we are. You only speak for yourself.

    In any country in the world, US included, he's a capitalist.
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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spring99 View Post
    Obama's act of signing the Affordable Care Act was an act of crony Capitalism, not Socialism or Communism.

    Fining citizens if they don't buy a product from a private company, is a purely Capitalist act and perhaps the largest one ever committed in our history. Thirty million Americans spending $10,000 or more a year on insurance means a $300 billion every year to the health insurance companies. Surely this was as Capitalist an act as they come.
    No, it is not a capitalist act. It is a fascist act. Capitalism is free people engaging in free and voluntary exchange. The state colluding with business to compel the purchase of a product to achieve a certain political end is fascism. Obamacare is fascism.

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Yeah, we are. You only speak for yourself.

    In any country in the world, US included, he's a capitalist.
    What does being a capitalist have to do with my comment? I was talking about whether he's a conservative or not.

    Way to snip a small part of my comment to make your case, dude.
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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    *sigh* Marxism is Communism.
    Really?

    Marxism, in theory, can lead to communism. Of course in reality it never does. We never get out of the dictatorship of the proles stage, do we?

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