View Poll Results: Which is he

Voters
51. You may not vote on this poll
  • Socialist

    33 64.71%
  • Communist

    18 35.29%
Page 5 of 35 FirstFirst ... 3456715 ... LastLast
Results 41 to 50 of 350

Thread: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

  1. #41
    Student KopeAcetic's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Last Seen
    11-20-17 @ 08:09 PM
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    214

    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Recent evidence has surfaced that Obama is, in fact, a communist.


    OMG that's hilarious

  2. #42
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    Long Island, New York
    Last Seen
    10-12-14 @ 05:21 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Socialist
    Posts
    407

    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    He spent his formative years surrounded by Marxists, Communists, socialists, Progressives, and liberals. He even managed to find time to hang around with radicals and terrorists.
    Care to name some of them?

    He grew up in Indonesia, an Islamic nation.
    He lived there for four years. Do you consider that 'growing up' there?

    He is anti-American. He is a foreigner in many ways.
    Do you mind elaborating? How is he anti-American and a foreigner?

  3. #43
    Sage
    Mycroft's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Last Seen
    Today @ 10:20 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    25,877

    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    Your and I aren't so different. The difference is where we believe government shouldn't grow. Where we're you when the PATRIOT Act along with homeland was created? What about the unnecessary warring when all it took was a president to make an executive order that the CIA use all of its resources to find squealers and use a team of navy seals?
    I don't think I said anything about WHERE the government shouldn't grow, so don't imply that I want the government to grow in certain areas and not others. The fact is...I want the government to be reduced in ALL areas. I also want certain Departments and Agencies removed altogether.

    But let's talk about the issues you brought up, eh"

    Patriot Act: I think it is useful and necessary.

    Homeland Security: Again, useful and necessary.

    The problem I have with these two issues isn't that they were created, but that they've been used to increase the size, scope and power of the government. Homeland Security, for example, was designed to consolidate all our intelligence agencies under one roof. It's gone beyond that to the point that we have TSA agents doing their thing at sporting events and even on the sidewalks of our streets.

    Unnecessary warring: Not sure exactly what you are referring to here, but you seem to have a very simplistic attitude toward violent conflict in the world. Let's take killing bin Laden for example...Do you think it would have been possible to find him and kill him without the resources of established U.S. installations in the area?
    TANSTAAFL

    “An armed society is a polite society.”
    ― Robert A. Heinlein, Beyond This Horizon

  4. #44
    Doesn't go below juicy
    tacomancer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Cleveland
    Last Seen
    05-20-16 @ 02:42 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    31,781

    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Since so many right wingers describe Obama as a "Socialist/Communist/", or some variation thereof, I figure by now they'll have made up their minds about which one of these mutually exclusive political philosophies he is.

    Remember though, as Socialist believes in sharing wealth, to many different degrees depending on which flavour they are, a Communist, on the other hand, believes in a classless, stateless society where the means of production are evenly distributed. And if he's a Marxist (as is often claimed), then he wants to attain this through violent revolution.
    Neither he is a pro-market social democrat.

  5. #45
    Sage

    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Last Seen
    04-23-17 @ 05:59 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    15,429
    Blog Entries
    2

    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    He's a left leaning populist.
    "Loyalty only matters when there's a hundred reasons not to be-" Gen. Mattis

  6. #46
    Professor
    zstep18's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    Somewhere
    Last Seen
    02-24-14 @ 02:29 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    1,770

    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    He's not a Socialist or a Communist.

    He's a liberal.
    But liberals are socialist! (sarcasm)

  7. #47
    Professor
    zstep18's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    Somewhere
    Last Seen
    02-24-14 @ 02:29 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    1,770

    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    I don't think I said anything about WHERE the government shouldn't grow, so don't imply that I want the government to grow in certain areas and not others. The fact is...I want the government to be reduced in ALL areas. I also want certain Departments and Agencies removed altogether.

    But let's talk about the issues you brought up, eh"

    Patriot Act: I think it is useful and necessary.

    Homeland Security: Again, useful and necessary.

    The problem I have with these two issues isn't that they were created, but that they've been used to increase the size, scope and power of the government. Homeland Security, for example, was designed to consolidate all our intelligence agencies under one roof. It's gone beyond that to the point that we have TSA agents doing their thing at sporting events and even on the sidewalks of our streets.

    Unnecessary warring: Not sure exactly what you are referring to here, but you seem to have a very simplistic attitude toward violent conflict in the world. Let's take killing bin Laden for example...Do you think it would have been possible to find him and kill him without the resources of established U.S. installations in the area?
    Right, so you believe the government should grow in regards to national defense, while others believe government should grow with regards to social policy. Which is more invasive, health care reform or the Patriot Act?

  8. #48
    Sage
    Fletch's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Mentor Ohio
    Last Seen
    Today @ 07:13 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    15,277

    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Since so many right wingers describe Obama as a "Socialist/Communist/", or some variation thereof, I figure by now they'll have made up their minds about which one of these mutually exclusive political philosophies he is.

    Remember though, as Socialist believes in sharing wealth, to many different degrees depending on which flavour they are, a Communist, on the other hand, believes in a classless, stateless society where the means of production are evenly distributed. And if he's a Marxist (as is often claimed), then he wants to attain this through violent revolution.
    A point of refernce would help here. Bernie Sanders is a socialist. In what way does Obama differ from him. France has a socialist party that I believe is in power right now. How does that party and its leaders differ from Obama?

  9. #49
    Professor
    zstep18's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    Somewhere
    Last Seen
    02-24-14 @ 02:29 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    1,770

    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    He spent his formative years surrounded by Marxists, Communists, socialists, Progressives, and liberals. He even managed to find time to hang around with radicals and terrorists. He grew up in Indonesia, an Islamic nation. He is anti-American. He is a foreigner in many ways.

    He needs to go.

    We need to defeat him so he and the impeached president "Slick willie" can hang around together.
    So, he's a Communist, in addition to being an ant-American Islamic fundamentalist, foreigner? Wow.

    You might as well just call him Satan.

  10. #50
    Doesn't go below juicy
    tacomancer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Cleveland
    Last Seen
    05-20-16 @ 02:42 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    31,781

    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    A point of refernce would help here. Bernie Sanders is a socialist. In what way does Obama differ from him. France has a socialist party that I believe is in power right now. How does that party and its leaders differ from Obama?
    Consider the way Bernie Sanders would have approached the bank bailout as an example. He would likely do wide scale nationalization as well as some very direct wealth transfers. Obama did not do this, but tried to find more (not completely mind you) market oriented solutions similar to what the top government economists at the time were suggesting.

Page 5 of 35 FirstFirst ... 3456715 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •