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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by AreteCourage View Post
    Well as Mussolini said..."Fascism should rightly be called Corporatism, as it is the merger of corporate and government power."
    I think if one were to honestly take stock of the Republicrats, they would see that it isn't communism or socialism, it's fascism. Clear as day. Heightened sense of nationalism? "If you're not with us, you're against us". Check. Big Brother policy and law? Hella-Check. Forever War? Check check and check again. Corporate State? Super check. People want to throw -isms around, but they should at least get it right.
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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I think if one were to honestly take stock of the Republicrats, they would see that it isn't communism or socialism, it's fascism. Clear as day. Heightened sense of nationalism? "If you're not with us, you're against us". Check. Big Brother policy and law? Hella-Check. Forever War? Check check and check again. Corporate State? Super check. People want to throw -isms around, but they should at least get it right.
    Well, at least you should try to get it right.

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by AreteCourage View Post
    This is putting a band aid on a broken arm. You have to cut spending not cut a little on proposed future spending.
    We can agree on the end point while we disagree on how to get there.

    Or option 3...vote for neither of them because they both are terrible for our country.
    I believed that Mitt was a horrible candidate until I saw him talk about the entitlement mentality of the 47%, encouraged by the one term Marxist's policies. Now I am solidly behind him. I will be sending him money and will volunteer to call people. I can see that Mitt Romney get is and he will stand with the 53% and help many of the 47% become worthwhile, productive citizens again. Further, I was very impressed that Mitt clearly loves this nation. I am thrilled to consider that once again we will have an American president--who loves his country.

    A Trillion? Where exactly are we going to get this type of figure every year hmm? I'm all ears because you wouldn't even get close if you cut all welfare across the board. No, we have to be realists about spending and that includes the military budget that the right sees as sacred. I would like to see it drop from 700 Billion down to 300 Billion in a span of about 4-5 years. That along with the gradual decrease in welfare over that same period would stop the bleeding so to speak.
    I think we would have that and more if we eliminated all of the extra-constitutional agencies, like the EPA for example.

    We have different values. I prefer the Constitutional functions like defense of the unconstitutional functions that abound.

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    I would say socialist.

    In an Obama video from 1998, this is what he says:

    "..... I think the trick is figuring out how do we structure government systems that pool resources, and hence facilitate some redistribution, because I actually believe in redistribution, at least at a certain level, to make sure that everybody's got a shot."



    In Video, Obama Says He Believes In 'Redistribution' - Business Insider

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    It's amazing to me... apart from a couple of us...that nobody sees that Obama is a socialist ... how can you spell it to them so they can understand?

    may be they want to be fed by the government? like in Russia in the 1960s?

    I am at a loss here.

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    We can agree on the end point while we disagree on how to get there.
    Yes we both agree that spending must be halted. I liked Rand Paul's idea of a spending freeze for a few years to get to a balanced budget.


    I believed that Mitt was a horrible candidate until I saw him talk about the entitlement mentality of the 47%, encouraged by the one term Marxist's policies. Now I am solidly behind him. I will be sending him money and will volunteer to call people. I can see that Mitt Romney get is and he will stand with the 53% and help many of the 47% become worthwhile, productive citizens again. Further, I was very impressed that Mitt clearly loves this nation. I am thrilled to consider that once again we will have an American president--who loves his country.
    Wow...

    You drank that cup of crap as if it were a glass of Dom Perignon. 47% of the people are not on entitlements. 47% of the people don't feel like victims. It was such an out of context statement that Romney made, and I am absolutely amazed that some people agreed with that nonsense. Do you understand that if nearly half of our population were on entitlements that our financial system would have collapsed years ago? Of that 47% that don't pay income taxes...a lot are/were Romney supporters. The elderly made up 44% of that 47% Romney was referring to. The wealthy (his buddies) made up 5-10% of that 47%. Another 30+% are people who get tax breaks based on the number of children they have and so forth which is a Republican backed policy. So we're talking of that 47%..less than 20% are on entitlement programs. He also alienated military vets with that statement who come home unemployed. It was jackass thing to say...and you agree with it...

    Just unbelievable.

    I think we would have that and more if we eliminated all of the extra-constitutional agencies, like the EPA for example.

    We have different values. I prefer the Constitutional functions like defense of the unconstitutional functions that abound.
    EPA, Homeland Security, Education, Energy...etc...I'm with you on that, but you still have to shave off this 700 Billion military spending.

    I'm a Libertarian...I'm all about the Constitution. We don't need to spend money we don't have to maintain a great national defense. Matter of fact, we stretch our troops and resources too thin by being in 130 countries worldwide. We need to scale it down big time.
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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Well, at least you should try to get it right.
    I'm more in the Yoda camp, do or do not, there is no try. I did. Sorry if you don't agree with the proper designation, but the more people wake up to the Republocrats and the government around us, the better.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Communism is only one form of "socialism" just as fascism is. Communism rules by committee, fascism rules by a single dictator but both are socialistic. Both sacrifice the freedom and rights of the individual in order to be subservient to the "state." Obama's statements taken as a whole are indicative of his actually being a socialist: by what degree has yet to be displayed. His attempts at centralized governmental control of essentially all aspects of private sector actions or infringements onto individual state's rights should be evidence enough that his basic philosophy runs against the reasons why our country was founded in the first place.

    His, and some extremists of the Democratic Party, want more and more control of people's lives and their ability to make individual decisions. Hence "Obama Care" where everyone now faces an added tax penalty for not buying some form of healthcare coverage. No different than if he and Congress had issued an edict stating that people in this country will be required to buy only American made cars and those who buy foreign made cars will face a stiff tax "penalty." That policy goes against everything this country stands for. Despite the Supreme Court's ruling, this IS unconstitutional!

    What government or political party or country's leader, operating in a free market capitalistic economy, has the right to dictate what you will purchase and who from???

    Proof positive that Obama is not only a Socialist, at the very least, but also the antithesis, an anathema to what we as free Americans have fought and died for and hold dearly and celebrate every 4th of July!

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreeMarket View Post
    fascism rules by a single dictator but both are socialistic.
    A fascist state does not necessarily need to be a dictatorship. Oligarchy works just as well.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Oligarchy....yes that makes sense

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