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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Neither, he is a Bildenberg puppet.

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    This is beyond a ridiculous poll. Obama neither Socialist or Communist. If you look at his policies and what he has done...it mimics a Democrat is who close to the center. He gets things like the Affordable Healthcare Act which appeases the left and these military drone strikes which appeases the right (even though they won't admit it in an election year).

    If you honestly think he is either communist or socialist then you have no idea what those two political ideologies are.
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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by AreteCourage View Post
    This is beyond a ridiculous poll. Obama neither Socialist or Communist. If you look at his policies and what he has done...it mimics a Democrat is who close to the center. He gets things like the Affordable Healthcare Act which appeases the left and these military drone strikes which appeases the right (even though they won't admit it in an election year).

    If you honestly think he is either communist or socialist then you have no idea what those two political ideologies are.
    If you are real the nation is in peril.

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    If you are real the nation is in peril.
    The nation is in peril for a lot of different reasons.

    1) The two big parties are bought by corporate special interests. (That would mean we lean more towards Fascism than Socialism or Communism)
    2) Neither party offers anything that would reduce our horrid deficit
    3) There always has to be an enemy with both parties to distract the public from our own domestic issues.
    4) Continued Spending on welfare and military
    5) Foreign aid given when we don't have the money

    There are more but it mostly revolves around our crumbling financial situation.
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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by AreteCourage View Post
    The nation is in peril for a lot of different reasons.

    1) The two big parties are bought by corporate special interests. (That would mean we lean more towards Fascism than Socialism or Communism)
    2) Neither party offers anything that would reduce our horrid deficit
    3) There always has to be an enemy with both parties to distract the public from our own domestic issues.
    4) Continued Spending on welfare and military
    5) Foreign aid given when we don't have the money

    There are more but it mostly revolves around our crumbling financial situation.
    There are things here I do agree with, even if only partially.
    I do see that the one term Marxist is using regulations to fascistically control private companies.
    Democrats do intend to spend us into a fundamental transformation.
    Republicans do have a plan but it is not widely known. Romney should fix that. Ryan can help.
    There will always be enemies. We did not seek out the Soviet Union to be our enemy. They chose us. Ditto the Islamofascists.
    I agree on welfare. I disagree on military. Why? National defense is one of the primary reasons to even have a nation. On the other hand taking wealth from the ones who create it to give to the marginal, the slothful, and dare I say it, the democratic base is simply wrong moreally and constitutionally.
    Foreign aid should be used when it advances our national interests.

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    corporatism |ˈkrp(ə)rəˌtizəm| noun -- the control of a state or organization by large interest groups.
    I'm gonna go with "Corporatist" for now.

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    There are things here I do agree with, even if only partially.
    I do see that the one term Marxist is using regulations to fascistically control private companies.
    Democrats do intend to spend us into a fundamental transformation.
    Republicans do have a plan but it is not widely known. Romney should fix that. Ryan can help.
    There will always be enemies. We did not seek out the Soviet Union to be our enemy. They chose us. Ditto the Islamofascists.
    I agree on welfare. I disagree on military. Why? National defense is one of the primary reasons to even have a nation. On the other hand taking wealth from the ones who create it to give to the marginal, the slothful, and dare I say it, the democratic base is simply wrong moreally and constitutionally.
    Foreign aid should be used when it advances our national interests.
    Ok so you basically agree with everything that goes against the left, but nothing that goes against the right.

    Republicans have a plan to cut on proposed future spending. That is hardly a plan to reduce spending and get this deficit under control. Republicans also want to INCREASE spending on the military budget which already eats up a little above 700 Billion annually. In contrast, the next country (China) only spends a little under 150 Billion on that budget.

    There doesn't always have to be enemies of our country. The Soviet Union in gone. China is more of a economic foe than anything else. This term Islamofacist is made up to give further scrutiny to Muslims by grouping them with Fascism which is a buzz word for evil now a days. We now SEEK out enemies. Funny thing is that some of our enemies now...we supported in the past. Funnier still is that some countries that we helped "liberate"...those rebels were Al-Quida. Now we consider the Taliban an enemy, but in the 80s we supported them and called them "freedom fighters."

    Foreign aid shouldn't be used when we don't have the money. We keep devaluing our currency by printing more and giving it away. Foreign aid is the easiest way to save and cut spending. Stop doing it. I understand that will hurt some countries, but we cannot be the saviors of the world. We got to live within our means before our entire financial situation collapses.
    I'm gonna go with "Corporatist" for now.
    Well as Mussolini said..."Fascism should rightly be called Corporatism, as it is the merger of corporate and government power."
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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Option #3 :

    Socio-Communist

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by AreteCourage View Post
    Ok so you basically agree with everything that goes against the left, but nothing that goes against the right.
    As you have stated the issues...

    Republicans have a plan to cut on proposed future spending.
    Yeah. One step at a time. First stop the bleeding. Then sew the arms and legs back on the torso.
    That is hardly a plan to reduce spending and get this deficit under control.
    Or you could choose option two, vote for the one term Marxist and pass the point of no return right onto the ash heap of history. Good thinking.

    Republicans also want to INCREASE spending on the military budget which already eats up a little above 700 Billion annually. In contrast, the next country (China) only spends a little under 150 Billion on that budget.
    Super. Our military should be the best trained, equipped and provisioned of any possible rival world wide. I believe our Navy should be focused around 16-18 aircraft carrier battle groups. I believe the Air Force should have at least twenty bomber squadrons, another twenty fighter squadrons and a half dozen training squadrons. Our Army should have 30 armor heavy brigades plus another 50 light infantry brigades. I believe the special operations command should have a variety of classified and unclassified capabilities with no less than 100,000 available for deployment.

    That ought to run about a trillion a year.

    There doesn't always have to be enemies of our country.
    Now all you have to do is convince our enemies.

    The Soviet Union in gone. China is more of a economic foe than anything else. This term Islamofacist is made up to give further scrutiny to Muslims by grouping them with Fascism which is a buzz word for evil now a days. We now SEEK out enemies. Funny thing is that some of our enemies now...we supported in the past. Funnier still is that some countries that we helped "liberate"...those rebels were Al-Quida. Now we consider the Taliban an enemy, but in the 80s we supported them and called them "freedom fighters."
    It is as if history began for you about ten years after the date of your birth. It is typical.

    Foreign aid shouldn't be used when we don't have the money. We keep devaluing our currency by printing more and giving it away. Foreign aid is the easiest way to save and cut spending. Stop doing it. I understand that will hurt some countries, but we cannot be the saviors of the world. We got to live within our means before our entire financial situation collapses.
    While I agree with you somewhat a complete elimination of all foreign aid would slow the hemorrhaging of money and the value of our assets by about five minutes.

    Well as Mussolini said..."Fascism should rightly be called Corporatism, as it is the merger of corporate and government power."
    I don't follow him much. Is he a CEO of some Fortune 500 corporation?

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    As you have stated the issues...


    Yeah. One step at a time. First stop the bleeding. Then sew the arms and legs back on the torso.
    This is putting a band aid on a broken arm. You have to cut spending not cut a little on proposed future spending.

    Or you could choose option two, vote for the one term Marxist and pass the point of no return right onto the ash heap of history. Good thinking.
    Or option 3...vote for neither of them because they both are terrible for our country.
    Super. Our military should be the best trained, equipped and provisioned of any possible rival world wide. I believe our Navy should be focused around 16-18 aircraft carrier battle groups. I believe the Air Force should have at least twenty bomber squadrons, another twenty fighter squadrons and a half dozen training squadrons. Our Army should have 30 armor heavy brigades plus another 50 light infantry brigades. I believe the special operations command should have a variety of classified and unclassified capabilities with no less than 100,000 available for deployment.

    That ought to run about a trillion a year.
    A Trillion? Where exactly are we going to get this type of figure every year hmm? I'm all ears because you wouldn't even get close if you cut all welfare across the board. No, we have to be realists about spending and that includes the military budget that the right sees as sacred. I would like to see it drop from 700 Billion down to 300 Billion in a span of about 4-5 years. That along with the gradual decrease in welfare over that same period would stop the bleeding so to speak.

    Now all you have to do is convince our enemies.
    That we created...

    It is as if history began for you about ten years after the date of your birth. It is typical.
    Shall we go back to the ill conceived Vietnam War...or would you rather colonial times?
    While I agree with you somewhat a complete elimination of all foreign aid would slow the hemorrhaging of money and the value of our assets by about five minutes.
    Just cutting foreign aid and nothing more...your probably right. However, this along with cuts to the military and welfare state would go a long way.

    I don't follow him much. Is he a CEO of some Fortune 500 corporation?
    Ha Ha HA....how very sarcastic of you. Benito Mussolini told the truth when speaking of Fascism as it was in Italy. He may have been a mass murdering tyrant, but he wasn't wrong about Fascism
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