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Thread: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by waas View Post
    That's a very dangerous misconception. Marxists are no more corrupt than any other politician and if you have testable evidence to prove otherwise, then I welcome you to present it. I also don't know how baling out corporations equates to money laundering either, as it's calling Keynesian Economics a convictable, criminal ideology. Oh, an I have yet to see any evidence from you that the incumbent's Marxist flexible. He's a left winger, I'll give you that, but aside from potential alignment between Marxism and left wing political thought as a whole, there's really nothing to prove your theory.
    Again, you lack imagination. There is no shame in this. It is what it is.

    The one term Marxist bailed out his friends. They, in turn gave him political contributions. Even Marxists need to be re-elected.
    The one term Marxist was caught on an open mike telling V. Putin to give him some time as he could be much more flexible after the election. What was the traitorous flexible president trying to give away?
    He is possibly the most corrupt politician we have had in the White House in this century. He took nearly a trillion taxpayer dollars and gave the money to public sector unions to keep them employed. He gave his friends and campaign contributors loans to enrich them. I believe that most, and possibly all of them declared bankruptcy. But the friends became very wealthy and the Bamster got his campaign contributions. What could be more imaginative than taking money from one's political enemies, the productive people, the wealth makers, giving the money to friends who in turn became very wealth and then gave a portion of that money back to Democrats as campaign contributions.

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    socialist or communist eh?

    neither...

    he's a left leaning authoritarian opportunist.

    Id say he's a capitalist, but that implies being part of the commercial market... and beyond being a consumer, he hasn't been a part of that world ( he's a public sector guy)

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Again, you lack imagination. There is no shame in this. It is what it is.

    The one term Marxist bailed out his friends. They, in turn gave him political contributions. Even Marxists need to be re-elected.
    The one term Marxist was caught on an open mike telling V. Putin to give him some time as he could be much more flexible after the election. What was the traitorous flexible president trying to give away?
    He is possibly the most corrupt politician we have had in the White House in this century. He took nearly a trillion taxpayer dollars and gave the money to public sector unions to keep them employed. He gave his friends and campaign contributors loans to enrich them. I believe that most, and possibly all of them declared bankruptcy. But the friends became very wealthy and the Bamster got his campaign contributions. What could be more imaginative than taking money from one's political enemies, the productive people, the wealth makers, giving the money to friends who in turn became very wealth and then gave a portion of that money back to Democrats as campaign contributions.
    Again, I fail to see any proof here.

    The Putin bit, that could be put in the context of arms reductions. But of course, you fail to give any citation, and I therefore cannot speculate further.

    You also imply here that the incumbent's enemies are citizens in the upper third. That's sod, pure and simple.

    Lacking imagination is good in a conversation such as this, being that it deals in absolutes; we know Obama did this, we don't know Obama did that. I'm not going to go around imagining ways that he could be a Marxist, as you seem to be doing. If I find certifiable proof of any Marxist leanings, then I'll believe in their validity. If not, then I won't.

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by waas View Post
    Again, I fail to see any proof here.
    And this part required no imagination. Obama bailed out his friends. His bailed out friends gave democrats large campaign contributions. This is money laundering. It is corruption.

    The Putin bit, that could be put in the context of arms reductions. But of course, you fail to give any citation, and I therefore cannot speculate further.
    Perhaps you don't get out much.
    http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/obam...heard-16007162

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by waas View Post
    You also imply here that the incumbent's enemies are citizens in the upper third. That's sod, pure and simple.
    I have no idea what this means. Please clarify.

    Lacking imagination is good in a conversation such as this, being that it deals in absolutes; we know Obama did this, we don't know Obama did that. I'm not going to go around imagining ways that he could be a Marxist, as you seem to be doing. If I find certifiable proof of any Marxist leanings, then I'll believe in their validity. If not, then I won't.
    So we are back to your inability to connect the dots. I understand. As I said, it is nothing to be ashamed of.

    I laugh at the idea of certifiable proof. You shall have it when it is too late to do anything about it.

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    And this part required no imagination. Obama bailed out his friends. His bailed out friends gave democrats large campaign contributions. This is money laundering. It is corruption.
    So we're back your misconception that corruption implies Marxism(and vice versa). As I told you before, provide some testable evidence to support that claim.

    I wasn't able to load the video, but thanks anyways. If you can provide a written article(non opinion) on the issue, that would be great.

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Neither... A corporatist capitalist


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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    I have no idea what this means. Please clarify.
    Class structure. The thirds are based on income, and are divided further based on how the wealth is distributed at any given time.

    So we are back to your inability to connect the dots. I understand. As I said, it is nothing to be ashamed of.

    I laugh at the idea of certifiable proof. You shall have it when it is too late to do anything about it.
    It's okay if you can't provide any evidence. My "inability to connect the dots" is a valid reason not to.

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by waas View Post
    So we're back your misconception that corruption implies Marxism(and vice versa). As I told you before, provide some testable evidence to support that claim.

    I wasn't able to load the video, but thanks anyways. If you can provide a written article(non opinion) on the issue, that would be great.
    I am only willing to give you a hand up. You want a hand out. If you are actually interested you can find the answers you need.

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by waas View Post
    Class structure. The thirds are based on income, and are divided further based on how the wealth is distributed at any given time.
    It's okay if you can't provide any evidence. My "inability to connect the dots" is a valid reason not to.
    There is no further point showing you the light. Some people are simply blind to it.

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