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Thread: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    LOL. What would you call it?
    Pitching in. We all need to do it. Every American.
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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Are you saying that he lacks political sophistication sufficient to prevent him from siding with obnoxious street thugs? Awesome.
    I would suggest that he didn't have sufficient suspicion of populists and counter-cultures. He saw the Tea Party and wanted an equivalent message from the Left. It was still new enough to make it more difficult to predict that it would value arrests over political influence, but I had my cynical thoughts immediately.
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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastIndependent View Post
    Auto Insurance?
    You are not required to have car insurance and thus not punished for not having it.

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastIndependent View Post
    Pitching in. We all need to do it. Every American.
    I agree. How much do you think every american should pitch in as a minimum?

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Nonsense.
    In 900 plus pages Smith says once that there are things the wealthy should pay for. He did not say they should pay for most things.
    Adam Smith, The Wealth of Nations, Book V: Of the Revenue of the Sovereign or Commonwealth,

    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. A tax upon house-rents, therefore, would in general fall heaviest upon the rich; and in this sort of inequality there would not, perhaps, be anything very unreasonable. It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion"

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    You are not required to have car insurance and thus not punished for not having it.
    Hmmm... That's funny because that isn't so. I had to buy auto insurance before I could be a licensed driver unless the laws changed in the past 3 months
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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    I agree. How much do you think every american should pitch in as a minimum?
    Flat tax at 15%. That will raise revenue, quell the "fair share" bs, and lower some people's taxes. I think that's an all around win don't ya think?
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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastIndependent View Post
    Hmmm... That's funny because that isn't so. I had to buy auto insurance before I could be a licensed driver unless the laws changed in the past 3 months
    You are not required to drive.

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastIndependent View Post
    Flat tax at 15%. That will raise revenue, quell the "fair share" bs, and lower some people's taxes. I think that's an all around win don't ya think?
    What about people under the poverty line?

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by zstep18 View Post
    Adam Smith, The Wealth of Nations, Book V: Of the Revenue of the Sovereign or Commonwealth,

    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. A tax upon house-rents, therefore, would in general fall heaviest upon the rich; and in this sort of inequality there would not, perhaps, be anything very unreasonable. It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion"
    Now look through the other 900 pages and find where he says that the rich ought to pay for everything.

    His book explores why some nations are wealthy and others are not. His book was not about fleecing the rich. He left that task to the Democratic Party.

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