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Thread: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyNinja View Post
    A great portion of that debt has been amassed through the payout of entitlements to those who are not in the upper class.
    But that's not all that the taxes go to. How do you know that the entire 1% taxes have gone to entitlements? There is quite a decent possibility that they have gone to everything, not just one category. It's the nation's problem, the nation to gether should work to fix it. Our tax code is broken. That needs to be fixed or completely rewritten ASAP
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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spring99 View Post
    Obama wishes to raise income tax rates on the wealthy, something that the founder and father of Capitalism, Adam Smith, would have totally supported.
    Nonsense.
    In 900 plus pages Smith says once that there are things the wealthy should pay for. He did not say they should pay for most things.

    The founders were brilliant men. But they were just men. They got many things right and a few things wrong. They provided a compromise that managed to hold the beast at bay for a very long time. But the beast is here now. If it cannot be tamed then, to quote Jefferson, "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

    I see that time coming. It will not be a civil war. It will be revolution again.
    Only this time we may not be so fortunate as to have a George Washington around to save us from ourselves.

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    You have got to be kidding me.

    It is a beautiful sound. Does that make me influenced by Islam? Heaven forbid I enjoy listening to it as I do my church's latin gregorian chanting.
    Are you able to perfectly recite the call to evening prayer in Arabic? Are you able to recite any the Christian fundamental doctrines in Latin? Perfectly?

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Are you able to perfectly recite the call to evening prayer in Arabic? Are you able to recite any the Christian fundamental doctrines in Latin? Perfectly?
    No, because I am lazy on both accounts. I need to spend more time with relatives that are very much into that form of Latin.
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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastIndependent View Post
    How so? Taxing the upper class to pay for all of the nation's debt is hardly redistributing the wealth
    LOL. What would you call it?

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Obama's endorsement of the nascent Occupy Movement was one of abject political miscalculation,
    Are you saying that he lacks political sophistication sufficient to prevent him from siding with obnoxious street thugs? Awesome.

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    No, because I am lazy on both accounts. I need to spend more time with relatives that are very much into that form of Latin.
    So you make my point Fiddy.

    He can. And he did. If you are influenced by Christianity without being able to recite its doctrines in Latin how much more was he influenced given that he can recite the call to prayers, the pledge of allegiance to Islam in Arabic without being influenced?

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    So far he is just socialist.

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastIndependent View Post
    Requiring health care was borrowing the premise of UHC yet it is still capitalistic
    I disagree, using force to punish someone for not having something is not capitalism. Capitalism is defined by free choice.

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    I disagree, using force to punish someone for not having something is not capitalism. Capitalism is defined by free choice.
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