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Thread: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Restate your question.
    How is he anti-capitalism? Has he rid of competitive markets, capital accumulation, and wage labor?

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Das Sozialist View Post
    How is he anti-capitalism? Has he rid of competitive markets, capital accumulation, and wage labor?
    Thank you.

    He has reduced our competitiveness. The accumulation of the additional hundreds if not thousands of regulations his administration has published are taking about a trillion dollars worth of compliance costs out of the economy. I believe this is wrecking capital formation. I can show the cost of compliance is very high but cannot prove that taking a trillion dollars out of the economy is ruining capital accumulation. My instincts say it has a big impact.

    He is using executive orders and his executive agencies to bankrupt companies he does not favor. Under his regime the cost of energy has gone way high. Because energy is a costly component for nearly everything we produce we see the cost of food has gone up and the price of a gallon of gasoline has roughly doubled. That also absorbs significant capital that might otherwise be available for capital accumulation.

    He is slashing reimbursements to doctors for medicaid and medicare. That is eliminating competition and availability for healthcare services for the old and for the poor.

    Tell me more about what you mean when you ask about wage labor. We don't see an end to wages until we arrive at communist utopia do we? If you mean something else please re-ask.

    I believe the question behind your question is simpler. If Obama is a Marxist why hasn't he implemented all of the things that a Marxist in power would do? He has willing accomplices in the Congress and on the Courts.

    I believe the best answer is that even with a violent revolution things take time. He has not had a violent revolution. But he does have the enormous weight of the administrative state being carried by every business and being paid by each of us. I believe he is wearing us down by the steady drip of both his direct actions and by the actions of the executive agencies.

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Obama wishes to raise income tax rates on the wealthy, something that the founder and father of Capitalism, Adam Smith, would have totally supported.

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spring99 View Post
    Obama wishes to raise income tax rates on the wealthy, something that the founder and father of Capitalism, Adam Smith, would have totally supported.
    Another means of silently lessening the inequality of property is to
    exempt all from taxation below a certain point, and to tax the higher
    portions of property in geometric progression as they rise”

    ~Thomas Jefferson (3rd President of the United States)



    People tend to ignore the parts about their heros they dislike.

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Another means of silently lessening the inequality of property is to
    exempt all from taxation below a certain point, and to tax the higher
    portions of property in geometric progression as they rise”

    ~Thomas Jefferson (3rd President of the United States)



    People tend to ignore the parts about their heros they dislike.
    He did get a lot right. He also got a lot wrong. This is wrong. Taking someone else's property is just because you can is thuggery not good governance.

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Since so many right wingers describe Obama as a "Socialist/Communist/", or some variation thereof, I figure by now they'll have made up their minds about which one of these mutually exclusive political philosophies he is.

    Remember though, as Socialist believes in sharing wealth, to many different degrees depending on which flavour they are, a Communist, on the other hand, believes in a classless, stateless society where the means of production are evenly distributed. And if he's a Marxist (as is often claimed), then he wants to attain this through violent revolution.
    I think he's more in line with Marxist thinking.

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    You may claim tht he was not influenced by Islam but he has said the call to prayer is one of the prettiest sounds.
    Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated (it’ll give Alabama voters heart attacks), Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as “one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.”
    You have got to be kidding me.

    It is a beautiful sound. Does that make me influenced by Islam? Heaven forbid I enjoy listening to it as I do my church's latin gregorian chanting.
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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    He is what we describe as Progressive Conservative.

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Recent evidence has surfaced that Obama is, in fact, a communist.


    It took me a second, but then I laughed like a crazy person.


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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    He is what we describe as Progressive Conservative.
    Explain, please.

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