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Thread: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    The last sentence most people will never admit.
    Its pretty obvious. Republicans generally support progressive taxation and govt control/involvment of all sort of industries and the economy. They simply dont want nearly all out socialism like democrats do. Ie, Republicans want govt involvement in healthcare, but not single payer. Republicans want the rich to pay most of the taxes, but not all. Democrats want single payer and for the rich to pay all the taxes.

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Where is the 'Who cares' option?

    What possible difference does it make?

    What he has (and has not) done in 3/12 years in office is what matters.

    He is what he is - a very interesting man and (like most of his predecessors - Dem and Rep) a crappy POTUS.
    It makes a difference because if he admitted it and embraced it, democrats would lose popularity. Liberal and socialist are dirty words, althought people dont really understand why. But thats why Dems call themselves 'progressive' now.

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    We cant work together. Its time to split up. Why should two groups of people fundementally opposed to each other continue to fight over governence? It makes more sense for each to go form their own societies.
    are you seriously advocating to split the country?

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    We cant work together. Its time to split up. Why should two groups of people fundementally opposed to each other continue to fight over governence? It makes more sense for each to go form their own societies.
    Given that most of the fight is between rural and urban centers, how would you propose splitting the country in a way where land is contiguous among the different cultures?

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    It makes a difference because if he admitted it and embraced it, democrats would lose popularity. Liberal and socialist are dirty words, althought people dont really understand why. But thats why Dems call themselves 'progressive' now.
    Fair enough.

    But I, personally, do not care what he calls himself.

    Nor do I care what most voters do either - I assume at least 2/3'rds of U.S. voters are politically clueless.

    Anyone that votes for either party in this election - imo - has not a clue what America really needs.

    Both Romney and Obama will end up (if they do what they claim they will do) making America worse off then it is now. Probably much worse.

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Obama is a huge Multi-Cultural Internationalist (MCI) .. with inklings of a Corporate Global Expansionist (CGE).

    Thus he is a danger to American citizens by virtue of these alone.

    His CGE inklings definitely highlight his support of American corporations, which are capitalist profit-is-everything entities by statute definition.

    To attempt to classify Obama as a socialist/communist/marxist is so old-school-irrelevant in this day and age.

    What truly matters regarding its affect on Americans is how a president sees the "global economy" and whether the president cares or not about the obvious damaging effects of the "global economy" on American citizens -- the "global economy" which is merely an obvious euphemism for wage-slave workers in a borderless countryless world.

    Obama in that regard is dangerous to Americans, as his MCI ideology coupled with his CGE support strips him of his patriotic loyalty to the common socioeconomic defense and general financial welfare of the overwhelming majority of his fellow Americans.
    You don't trust Trump? Well, there's only one way to leverage him to do what's economically right for us all: Powerful American Political Alliance. Got courage?! .. and a mere $5.00?

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    His step-father was Indonesian. He was also a socialist. His mother was a socialist or Progressive. He was there from 1967 to 1971. You may claim tht he was not influenced by Islam but he has said the call to prayer is one of the prettiest sounds.
    Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated (it’ll give Alabama voters heart attacks), Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as “one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.”

    I didn't hear Obama reciting the Call to Prayer in that video, did you? And why does it matter if he finds it to be a pretty sound? Liking a sound makes you a Muslim?

    I am going to assume that you are an Obama supporter blind to the obvious.
    Not at all, I don't believe Obama deserves a second term. And you still didn't answer my question.

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Das Sozialist View Post
    I didn't hear Obama reciting the Call to Prayer in that video, did you? And why does it matter if he finds it to be a pretty sound? Liking a sound makes you a Muslim?
    No. That was not the point. The point was that after living in Muslim Indonesia as a young boy he was able to flawlessly recite the evening call to prayer in Arabic. The call is a profession of Muslim faith. I wanted people to hear what that prayer sounds like and see what the translated words are.

    If this impressionable young man absorbed so much of Islam that he could recite the call of faith in Arabic a few year ago then it is equally likely that being steeped in Marxist dogma, socialist and Progressive beliefs would also be absorbed. It was child abuse that has led to nation abuse.

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Das Sozialist View Post
    Not at all, I don't believe Obama deserves a second term. And you still didn't answer my question.
    Restate your question.

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    Re: Is Obama a Socialist or a Communist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    No. That was not the point. The point was that after living in Muslim Indonesia as a young boy he was able to flawlessly recite the evening call to prayer in Arabic. The call is a profession of Muslim faith. I wanted people to hear what that prayer sounds like and see what the translated words are.
    Do you mind sourcing that? You've linked a video that does not prove your statement.

    If this impressionable young man absorbed so much of Islam that he could recite the call of faith in Arabic a few year ago then it is equally likely that being steeped in Marxist dogma, socialist and Progressive beliefs would also be absorbed. It was child abuse that has led to nation abuse.
    Again, how do you know he could recite the prayer? Do you have proof? Video, Audio, a statement from Obama? What's your proof?

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