View Poll Results: Should the US reduce its global military presence?

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    Re: Should the US reduce its global military presence?

    Quote Originally Posted by PrometheusBound View Post
    That is exactly what the your media role models do when they misuse words trying to sound educated and give a new definition to oxymoron! But no, we can't question our gurus, especially the frauds who write dictionaries today that permissively include these errors as legitimate alternatives.
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    Re: Should the US reduce its global military presence?

    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire X View Post
    And sure, NK might think China is their ally, but in all reality they aren't. I don't care what delusions Kim Jong-un has.
    that's fascinating. how did you learn this?

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    Re: Should the US reduce its global military presence?

    The problem from your perspective is that we have binding treaties with both and are obligated to support them with troops when needed. Personally being ethnic German I have no problem with the UN or NATO or the EU for that matter.

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    Re: Should the US reduce its global military presence?

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfman24 View Post
    The problem from your perspective is that we have binding treaties with both and are obligated to support them with troops when needed. Personally being ethnic German I have no problem with the UN or NATO or the EU for that matter.

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    Re: Should the US reduce its global military presence?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    that's fascinating. how did you learn this?
    This article linked on the other page provides a good explanation of the relationship.

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    Basically it says that the Chinese provide aid (food, water, etc.) to the North Koreans in order to keep them stable. They don't want a country on their border to become an unstable mess, like Syria is right now. This way, the Chinese can always threaten to stop providing this aid if the North Koreans get too aggressive. The Chinese actually want NK to stay on good behavior.


    That's very different than a military alliance.

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    Re: Should the US reduce its global military presence?

    Yes and it's accurate. It is similar, in fact, to our relationship with Israel.

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    Re: Should the US reduce its global military presence?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Yes and it's accurate. It is similar, in fact, to our relationship with Israel.
    I disagree. Our relationship with Israel is more of a military relationship that stems from the fact that there is a lot of Jewish influence in the US government. I'd say this is more similar to our relationship with Pakistan.

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    Re: Should the US reduce its global military presence?

    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire X View Post
    I disagree. Our relationship with Israel is more of a military relationship that stems from the fact that there is a lot of Jewish influence in the US government. I'd say this is more similar to our relationship with Pakistan.
    No, for the simple enough reason that we pay Pakistan to engage in hostilities. We support Israel so that they don't have to engage in hostilities, but so that we have a threat we can pull out when we need it. The Chinese get a lot of mileage out of the NKoreans in terms of strategic asymetric conflict.

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    Re: Should the US reduce its global military presence?

    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire X View Post
    This article linked on the other page provides a good explanation of the relationship.

    China


    Basically it says that the Chinese provide aid (food, water, etc.) to the North Koreans in order to keep them stable. They don't want a country on their border to become an unstable mess, like Syria is right now. This way, the Chinese can always threaten to stop providing this aid if the North Koreans get too aggressive. The Chinese actually want NK to stay on good behavior.


    That's very different than a military alliance.
    China doesn't want NK to collapse and to unite with the south as a democracy allied with the United States.

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    Re: Should the US reduce its global military presence?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    No, for the simple enough reason that we pay Pakistan to engage in hostilities. We support Israel so that they don't have to engage in hostilities, but so that we have a threat we can pull out when we need it. The Chinese get a lot of mileage out of the NKoreans in terms of strategic asymetric conflict.
    We were hoping that by allowing Pakistan goods into the US, the Pakistanis would be grateful and see us as an ally. Pakistan was also seen as a source of cheap labor.

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