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    Are we better off than the prehistoric man?

    This may be a no-brainer, but really. We work more hours than the prehistoric man hunted. We work in artificial environments that stretches our social/family ties, the prehistoric man did all his activities with the involvement of his social/family environment. The prehistoric man was "separated" from the animal kingdom by inventing that the weakest member of his horde was worth enough to support, we eagerly write off everybody who is not competitive enough.

    And what do we gain for these sacrifices? We can drive more expensive cars to take an even remoter job. We can buy more expensive houses that we hardly have any time to spend in. We can get hefty investment account balances that evaporate in one swoop at any stock market/credit dip/crash or at any structural unemployment experience. What is the difference between slavery and controlling the prices of all trades by cornering the markets? They teach in school that slavery was the step-ahead that advanced civilization out of the prehistoric age. But was it really a progression or a regression? Is our world today a progression?

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    Re: Are we better off than the prehistoric man?

    Imo, we aren't better off as a general rule. Technology is nice, but our problem-solving skills are probably suffering collectively, and our minds and bodies are idle too much of the time.
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    Re: Are we better off than the prehistoric man?

    Prehistoric man lived to 16.

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    Re: Are we better off than the prehistoric man?

    As an old backpacker and especially the old part, the absolute value of hot and cold running water is not to be discounted.

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    Re: Are we better off than the prehistoric man?

    If you want the virtues of a rougher life, of which there are many, along with the deeply integrated family and social structure but don't want to live in a cave nor skin an animal to use his fur as underwear, than join the Amish community where you can have a decent mix of the goold ol' work ethic without having to worry about a broken arm or leg being a death sentance because you can no longer hunt.

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    Re: Are we better off than the prehistoric man?

    prehistoric man could expect a lifespan of around 40 with high infant mortality. medical advances included trepanning in order to let out the demons. starvation was a significant risk, and when another tribe came over the hill without warning, they were probably coming to kill you or worse. popular forms of death included freezing, being killed in battle, or being eaten by large predators. to top off the fun, breeding age for women was mid teens, so that's when you could expect to be taken by your future husband. also, you probably don't get a great degree of choice in the matter.

    so, in my professional opinion, you all can have that ****. i prefer to hang out here, have a car, and eat clif bars and diet coke. sure, it sometimes sucks having to work 40 hour weeks because somebody decided that was "full time," but it doesn't suck that much.

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    Re: Are we better off than the prehistoric man?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    As an old backpacker and especially the old part, the absolute value of hot and cold running water is not to be discounted.
    not to mention having a toilet you can sit on instead of digging a hole and squatting over it.

    The hunter-gatherer societies of yore led pretty difficult lives, given extremes of weather, diseases, difficulty of finding food, being constantly on the move.

    No, I'll take that running water, well stocked fridge, car on the highway instead of bare feet on a rocky path, antibiotics when necessary, electricity, and the rest of it.

    But, I still like to disappear into the wilderness for a short visit from time to time, equipped with a backpacking stove, a rain and mosquito proof tent, freeze dried food, and a warm sleeping bag, none of which our ancestors had.
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    Re: Are we better off than the prehistoric man?

    ...and a big ass gun for things that go bump in the night. **** rocks and sticks. Propelling lead at 2000 ft./second is awesome.
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    Re: Are we better off than the prehistoric man?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    prehistoric man could expect a lifespan of around 40 with high infant mortality. medical advances included trepanning in order to let out the demons. starvation was a significant risk, and when another tribe came over the hill without warning, they were probably coming to kill you or worse. popular forms of death included freezing, being killed in battle, or being eaten by large predators. to top off the fun, breeding age for women was mid teens, so that's when you could expect to be taken by your future husband. also, you probably don't get a great degree of choice in the matter.

    so, in my professional opinion, you all can have that ****. i prefer to hang out here, have a car, and eat clif bars and diet coke. sure, it sometimes sucks having to work 40 hour weeks because somebody decided that was "full time," but it doesn't suck that much.
    Actually, iirc, it was parasites and infections that were responsible for ahort primitive lifespans.

    But they did apparently "work" about twenty hours a week to provide for their needs. More in harsh environments, less in hospitable ones.

    NONE spent 25% of their total effort on housing ALONE.

    I prefer modern comforts, but the "nasty, brutish and short" meme isn't accurate.
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    Re: Are we better off than the prehistoric man?

    And "prehistoric" man lived to be about 25.
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