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    Re: Are we better off than the prehistoric man?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    You hang with other adults, defined as over 40, and don't try to socialize with the wet behind the ears crowd. They're pretty boring anyway.
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    Re: Are we better off than the prehistoric man?

    Quote Originally Posted by ab9924 View Post
    What kind of infections would have the power to kill a whole man at age 25 for example? (Really curious.)
    One condition is called "stupidous maximus" it can even change the appearance of the person so afflicted.....

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    Re: Are we better off than the prehistoric man?

    Quote Originally Posted by ab9924 View Post
    This may be a no-brainer, but really. We work more hours than the prehistoric man hunted. We work in artificial environments that stretches our social/family ties, the prehistoric man did all his activities with the involvement of his social/family environment. The prehistoric man was "separated" from the animal kingdom by inventing that the weakest member of his horde was worth enough to support, we eagerly write off everybody who is not competitive enough.

    And what do we gain for these sacrifices? We can drive more expensive cars to take an even remoter job. We can buy more expensive houses that we hardly have any time to spend in. We can get hefty investment account balances that evaporate in one swoop at any stock market/credit dip/crash or at any structural unemployment experience. What is the difference between slavery and controlling the prices of all trades by cornering the markets? They teach in school that slavery was the step-ahead that advanced civilization out of the prehistoric age. But was it really a progression or a regression? Is our world today a progression?
    Since our whole economy is built on people spending more than they earn, we aren't better off than many generations before us. I agree with much of what you've said.

    I helped people buy homes 50 miles from work because that's where they could afford their first home -- a McMansion. That they couldn't afford to furnish. Single couples buying homes in the sticks for bragging rights. Driving 2-1/2 hours to/from work every day. Bought 'em w/no money down because they wanted instant gratification. "I want to live in a better home than my parents," they said. If one of them lost their job? They were on the verge of being homeless...first paycheck missed.

    Have kids?? Yep. And thirty days later, mom's back at work leaving their child in the hands of strangers so she can get right back on the job to try to save "the wonderful lifestyle" they've created for themselves.

    I've watched couples get married with a combined student loan debt of $40,000. Nice way to start out a marriage, yes? Both of them with car payments. And the McMansion besides.

    We've been sold a bill of goods about what constitutes happiness in this country, and I'm afraid there's no going back.
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    Re: Are we better off than the prehistoric man?

    Holy cow this thread is based on a premise that is laughable. Alright, pre-history refers to a time before the written record, and coincidentally, free from all of the things that would make the author feel comfortable. Let's see how our OP likes to die off from something we can put an end to right now, free from the ability to find food so easily, to feel warm almost whenever he wants to, finding a means to get cool when it is scathing hot, and so on and so forth.
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    Re: Are we better off than the prehistoric man?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Since our whole economy is built on people spending more than they earn, we aren't better off than many generations before us. I agree with much of what you've said.

    I helped people buy homes 50 miles from work because that's where they could afford their first home -- a McMansion. That they couldn't afford to furnish. Single couples buying homes in the sticks for bragging rights. Driving 2-1/2 hours to/from work every day. Bought 'em w/no money down because they wanted instant gratification. "I want to live in a better home than my parents," they said. If one of them lost their job? They were on the verge of being homeless...first paycheck missed.

    Have kids?? Yep. And thirty days later, mom's back at work leaving their child in the hands of strangers so she can get right back on the job to try to save "the wonderful lifestyle" they've created for themselves.

    I've watched couples get married with a combined student loan debt of $40,000. Nice way to start out a marriage, yes? Both of them with car payments. And the McMansion besides.

    We've been sold a bill of goods about what constitutes happiness in this country, and I'm afraid there's no going back.

    Sure, there are problems with our culture, but that's no reason to go back to hunting lions and buffalo with a pointy stick!

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    Re: Are we better off than the prehistoric man?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Oh, I'm quite attached to my own life, and wouldn't want to have seen it end at age 25. Yes, I believe that is natural. Without a will to live, it is likely that species homo sapiens would have become extinct by now.
    I guess I could then say, that this will-to-live seems an externally imposed program inside us, but then I would sound stupid. Probably the better analysis of this is that our attachment to our lives is simply fear, the fear of the unknown, I speculate.

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    Re: Are we better off than the prehistoric man?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    You hang with other adults, defined as over 40, and don't try to socialize with the wet behind the ears crowd. They're pretty boring anyway.
    No, I protest, not boring.

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    Re: Are we better off than the prehistoric man?

    Quote Originally Posted by waas View Post
    Keep in mind that there wasn't a state or social structure - to prevent these crimes - as developed as our current one. I'm really doubting the level of gang violence was much lower at all.
    I guess you may have a point here, a lot of it may have been like a military exercise, your family/clan put you and a few of your brothers in rotating duty of guarding and fighting-off.

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    Re: Are we better off than the prehistoric man?

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Prehistoric people weren't really tribal and had no government, so I'm not sure how you're making the comparison there.
    I was thinking that what the prehistoric hordes shared between themselves, such as food, is in a way the same philosophy as government benefit programs trying to share with tax money.

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    Re: Are we better off than the prehistoric man?

    Quote Originally Posted by ab9924 View Post
    I guess you may have a point here, a lot of it may have been like a military exercise, your family/clan put you and a few of your brothers in rotating duty of guarding and fighting-off.


    Look up the Yanomamo, also called the Yanomami. Primitive tribes in SAm jungles. Lots of warfare, feuds, murder, rapes, etc.


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