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    Re: Are we better off than the prehistoric man?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    As an old backpacker and especially the old part, the absolute value of hot and cold running water is not to be discounted.
    Interesting ... I have a friend who I (and he) can't remember when he had a wash the last time.

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    Re: Are we better off than the prehistoric man?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    If you want the virtues of a rougher life, of which there are many, along with the deeply integrated family and social structure but don't want to live in a cave nor skin an animal to use his fur as underwear, than join the Amish community where you can have a decent mix of the goold ol' work ethic without having to worry about a broken arm or leg being a death sentance because you can no longer hunt.
    Don't the Amish have to work on some land too, in addition to hunting and gathering?

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    Re: Are we better off than the prehistoric man?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    prehistoric man could expect a lifespan of around 40 with high infant mortality. medical advances included trepanning in order to let out the demons. starvation was a significant risk, and when another tribe came over the hill without warning, they were probably coming to kill you or worse. popular forms of death included freezing, being killed in battle, or being eaten by large predators. to top off the fun, breeding age for women was mid teens, so that's when you could expect to be taken by your future husband. also, you probably don't get a great degree of choice in the matter.

    so, in my professional opinion, you all can have that ****. i prefer to hang out here, have a car, and eat clif bars and diet coke. sure, it sometimes sucks having to work 40 hour weeks because somebody decided that was "full time," but it doesn't suck that much.
    Not living all that infinitely long life as we all do today, would definitely beat the nursing home, I bet. The average real working week is actually 60+ hours, only 40 of that is accounted for in the books, in the life of the general public.

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    Re: Are we better off than the prehistoric man?

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    And "prehistoric" man lived to be about 25.
    A little short, but think about this, how absolutely horrible it must be to live twice that age as we do today, what can you do at 50? No sports, no women/men, no sex, no job market, no money, no life, but you still can't die. An absolute sentence in hell on earth. I can't even imagine 40, but 50 must absolutely suck. What can one do with his life without anything?

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    Re: Are we better off than the prehistoric man?

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    Re: Are we better off than the prehistoric man?

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Actually, iirc, it was parasites and infections that were responsible for ahort primitive lifespans.

    But they did apparently "work" about twenty hours a week to provide for their needs. More in harsh environments, less in hospitable ones.

    NONE spent 25% of their total effort on housing ALONE.

    I prefer modern comforts, but the "nasty, brutish and short" meme isn't accurate.
    What kind of infections would have the power to kill a whole man at age 25 for example? (Really curious.)

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    Re: Are we better off than the prehistoric man?

    Quote Originally Posted by ab9924 View Post
    A little short, but think about this, how absolutely horrible it must be to live twice that age as we do today, what can you do at 50? No sports, no women/men, no sex, no job market, no money, no life, but you still can't die. An absolute sentence in hell on earth. I can't even imagine 40, but 50 must absolutely suck. What can one do with his life without anything?
    How old are you? I don't know many 50 year olds without pre-existing conditions that aren't able to participate in sports, enjoy the opposite sex and sexual relations with them, find employment, pay their bills, or enjoy life.
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    Re: Are we better off than the prehistoric man?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    In my book a "better" life equates with a longer life. Cavemen rarely lived out of their 30's. Who cares how great it was?
    But aren't you afraid of nursing homes? There was one on TV here lately when they were sued for beating up the oldies inside. But even without the beating, doesn't it suck to be old?

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    Re: Are we better off than the prehistoric man?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    We also have more opportunities for leisure and more comfortable lifestyles.
    Doesn't all of our time go lost at work/commute instead of any leisure?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Not for very long. It's hard to maintain social/family ties when everyone you know dies by age 25.


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    We give the weak in our society far more support than prehistoric people ever did.
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    Interesting. Can you give an example?

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    Re: Are we better off than the prehistoric man?

    Quote Originally Posted by ab9924 View Post
    But aren't you afraid of nursing homes? There was one on TV here lately when they were sued for beating up the oldies inside. But even without the beating, doesn't it suck to be old?
    Personally I am a huge fan of being alive, and am quite fine with eventually growing old in order to continue this condition as long as I can. and you know what.. even though your nursing home thing is a tad silly on the surface for a reason for not wanting to grow old I would even trade off an occasional beating for a few more years of existence if that was somehow put to me as an either/or option.
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