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    Re: Are we better off than the prehistoric man?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    We're obviously better off then the prehistoric man.

    Prehistoria includes dinosaurs. Dinosaurs include velociraptors. Velociraptors include having one's stomach slashed open whilst being eaten alive.

    Modern era > Prehistoria
    pssst..... velociraptors were extinct ten's of millions of years prior to any prehistoric man coming onto the scene. Not too much worry about them slashing open stomachs (unless you fell on a fossilized claw protruding from the ground somehow?), and there certainly was no worry about them eating any prehistoric men (or women or children) alive
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    Re: Are we better off than the prehistoric man?

    Quote Originally Posted by marduc View Post
    pssst..... velociraptors were extinct ten's of millions of years prior to any prehistoric man coming onto the scene. Not too much worry about them slashing open stomachs (unless you fell on a fossilized claw protruding from the ground somehow?), and there certainly was no worry about them eating any prehistoric men (or women or children) alive
    OK. So man/some form of man didn't exist back then? "Prehistoric" refers to a time before history was recorded, so the question is whether man ever lived among dinosaurs or, after dinosaurs, large, hairy animals like the sabretooth. If prehistoric man lived among the sbretooth, then just swap out velociraptor with it. Horrific death. Same thing.

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    Re: Are we better off than the prehistoric man?

    Quote Originally Posted by ab9924 View Post
    This may be a no-brainer, but really. We work more hours than the prehistoric man hunted. We work in artificial environments that stretches our social/family ties, the prehistoric man did all his activities with the involvement of his social/family environment. The prehistoric man was "separated" from the animal kingdom by inventing that the weakest member of his horde was worth enough to support, we eagerly write off everybody who is not competitive enough.

    And what do we gain for these sacrifices? We can drive more expensive cars to take an even remoter job. We can buy more expensive houses that we hardly have any time to spend in. We can get hefty investment account balances that evaporate in one swoop at any stock market/credit dip/crash or at any structural unemployment experience. What is the difference between slavery and controlling the prices of all trades by cornering the markets? They teach in school that slavery was the step-ahead that advanced civilization out of the prehistoric age. But was it really a progression or a regression? Is our world today a progression?
    You are not a hunter are you? Nor much into pre history studies either? There were many different types of culture through out the evolution of man. Many cultures were full of assholes that would not allow the weakest to remain with the group.

    Really it is a myth that man has devolved socially over time so you really have nothing to base your assumptions on here.

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    Re: Are we better off than the prehistoric man?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    OK. So man/some form of man didn't exist back then? "Prehistoric" refers to a time before history was recorded, so the question is whether man ever lived among dinosaurs or, after dinosaurs, large, hairy animals like the sabretooth. If prehistoric man lived among the sbretooth, then just swap out velociraptor with it. Horrific death. Same thing.
    To answer your first question: NO, no form of man existed back then (in the time of dinosaurs) The only mammals around were small little rodent like things.

    And yes, horrific death whether it be by Velociraptor or Sabre tooth or Hippo or Tiger, or Pit Viper, or Scorpion is still a horrific death, but that is irrelevant to the problem I pointed out with your post implying that man lived alongside velociraptors ala the Flinstones or 10,000 B.C
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    Re: Are we better off than the prehistoric man?

    Quote Originally Posted by marduc View Post
    To answer your first question: NO, no form of man existed back then (in the time of dinosaurs) The only mammals around were small little rodent like things.

    And yes, horrific death whether it be by Velociraptor or Sabre tooth or Hippo or Tiger, or Pit Viper, or Scorpion is still a horrific death, but that is irrelevant to the problem I pointed out with your post implying that man lived alongside velociraptors ala the Flinstones or 10,000 B.C
    You're correct about man not existing back in the time of the dinosaurs.

    However, death by sabretooth/velociraptor is far more frightening.

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    Re: Are we better off than the prehistoric man?

    these mammals lived at the same time as dinosaurs :

    Mesozoic Mammal Pictures - Pictures of Mammals of the Triassic, Jurassic and Cretaceous Periods

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    humans came significantly later.

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    Re: Are we better off than the prehistoric man?

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    The biggest myth is that primitive peoples lived in "harmony" with nature.

    The reality is they moved when they had eaten every animal and plant within walking distance of the camp. So much so that it usually took more than one year for the environment to bounce back.

    The extinction of megafauna in North America is suapisciously concurrent with the spread of Homo Sapiens. Makes sense since they evolved without homonids.
    That's why Manhattan Island wasn't worth more than $24 to the Indians. It was just a one-season hunting ground, after which they took off and invaded another tribe's territory. Primitive existence means constant warfare and a living hell.
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    Re: Are we better off than the prehistoric man?

    [QUOTE=Goshin;1060884785]Tell that to the starving toddlers in Somalia.

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    They must pay with their lives for their fathers' Stone Age lifestyle of gang warfare, or else they will grow up to act the same way and leave their own starving children to carry on the national tradition. Change only comes when a people have to pay the full consequences of their unfit attitudes. Bailing them out will only make sure that the next Somali generation sinks again.
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    Re: Are we better off than the prehistoric man?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    You're correct about man not existing back in the time of the dinosaurs.

    However, death by sabretooth/velociraptor is far more frightening.
    More frightening than death by suicide bomber, predator drone, or drunk driver? Horrific deaths aren't just from pre history.
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    Re: Are we better off than the prehistoric man?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    More frightening than death by suicide bomber, predator drone, or drunk driver? Horrific deaths aren't just from pre history.
    Hmm...

    It's scary to be killed by explosions and accidents... It's horrific and messy... but they're also rather quick.

    My thoughts are that the modern era is far better than the prehistoric times because our quality of life is so much more enjoyable. We... we can drive cars, have access to medicine, and toilets...

    When it comes to prehistoria, there's an extreme level of fear, especially from the pov of one in this day looking back at the past. Today, if you cut yourself on a rusty piece of metal or get an infection, you can, hopefully, have access to medicine. Back then, if you had an infection, more often than not it would fester and spread, until you're wrapped up in the nightmare of massive, fatal infection. That's incredibly scary. It can still be a reality for some today, but it is FAR less likely than in the past. If you cut a finger of back then, the risk of infection is overwhelming.

    Being wrapped in fur or whatever else, living in caves or nomadic huts, having to bust your ass to find food and stay alive... it's a lot tougher. It may be simpler without the complexities of technology, but life was so much scarier back then. Back then if it wasn't the elements, disease, and lack of food.... it was raiders and enemy tribes. And then to top it off there were barbaric laws, if any laws at all.

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