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    Re: Are we better off than the prehistoric man?

    Quote Originally Posted by ab9924 View Post
    Okay, for example, in a prehistoric society, everyone in the horde/group had a role. It was never the role of getting fat whilst idle or wondering about one's own usefulness. Every member was accepted unconditionally, and they understood their roles and worked it.

    In modern society, every acceptance is conditional, every role is questionable, and every value is only a consequence of erratic market volatilities.

    So, the prehistoric guy had mental security, and from that, he could bid for physical security. The modern guy can have neither.

    What a bunch of absurd assumptions. In primitive societies the only law was no law and power ruled. Your hippy Woodstock view has no realistic basic.

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    Re: Are we better off than the prehistoric man?

    Quote Originally Posted by marduc View Post
    I think that they did not, their entire lives were dependent on their work, on their hunt on their preparedness. Waking at the brink of dawn.. hunting until you go t dinner on the table (if you were successful), often coming home in the evening or staying out overnight Getting home with the kill, having to dress the kill, skin it, portion it, tan the hides, whittle needles from the bones, smoke some of the meat, and cook dinner. Then perhaps take some time around the campfire making those spearpoints for the next hunt, maybe telling a few tales in the meantime, perhaps a few hours fornicating, and then another day of work ahead. Packing up all your belongings roaming for miles to follow the herds, setting up camp, unsetting up camp, more following the herd, another kill, another huge batch of work processing the carcass for materials essential to your survival.

    I don't know, I just don't seem to spend a lot of my evenings cutting down trees and processing toilet paper to wipe my ass, or having to carve a toothbrush and affix boars hair into it, or carving a turkey bone into a sewing needle all that much. My evenings are spent doing what I want to do (my days are as well at times), not what I HAVE to do just to survive.
    Actually more like farm life not too long ago in the winter.

    They sat around and made/did things while interacting with each other.

    Remember, they weren't manufacturing disposable crap. They were crafting things, processing food. No storage to speak of, no profit taking. When the taro is pounded for the week you do something else. You dont pound taro all day for the rest of your life.

    Its a very different lifestyle, and while bereft of most of our creature comforts, probably wasnt as terrible as many think.

    Stone tools and fire took us out of the foodchain, made us too dangerous to hunt eyond opportunistically.

    We're excellent eating machines, with thumbs. Highly adaptable.

    So while not luxurious, not horrid either.
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    Re: Are we better off than the prehistoric man?

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    Stone tools and fire took us out of the foodchain, made us too dangerous to hunt eyond opportunistically.
    There is still a short list of animals that will attack humans without provocation. Among those are the tiger, the grizzly bear, the polar bear, the crocodile, and the cape buffalo.

    Which of these would you like to confront with fire and stone tools?
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    Re: Are we better off than the prehistoric man?

    With the severe medical issues I had as an infant, I would say I am better off in the modern world since I am actually alive.

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    Re: Are we better off than the prehistoric man?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    With the severe medical issues I had as an infant, I would say I am better off in the modern world since I am actually alive.
    You and at least half of the population of the modern world.

    Infant mortality in primitive society had to have been well over 50%.
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    Re: Are we better off than the prehistoric man?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    There is still a short list of animals that will attack humans without provocation. Among those are the tiger, the grizzly bear, the polar bear, the crocodile, and the cape buffalo.



    Which of these would you like to confront with fire and stone tools?
    Even with a gun youre not safe from these animals alone.

    My point was we stopped being prey animals when fire and stone tools made us too dangerous.

    A 40 pound wolverine can run a bear or mountain lion off a kill. Would the larger animal win? Of course. Its just not worth it.

    Wolves were our last "enemies". Because they are cooperative hunters like us.
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    Re: Are we better off than the prehistoric man?

    I don't mean to be rude, but really?

    There was no electricity, refrigeration, or medicine back then. Unlike today if you wanted to garden you had to worry about getting EATEN. Got an infection? Well, good luck with that. The only fast food out there was either you or your prey. Bored? There's some rocks over there you can play with, or maybe some of your grandfather's bones in the back of the cave.

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    Re: Are we better off than the prehistoric man?

    Are We Better Off . . .

    (chuckle)

    All you have to do is look back to Oct - Dec 2008 and ask that question. What do you think the answer is . . .
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    Re: Are we better off than the prehistoric man?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    There is still a short list of animals that will attack humans without provocation. Among those are the tiger, the grizzly bear, the polar bear, the crocodile, and the cape buffalo.

    Which of these would you like to confront with fire and stone tools?
    To quote a guy I know who wrote this in an archery magazine

    In the cave man era, bowstrings were made of fish guts. They were good for a few shots at a Mastadon, then the string broke and the caveman died.

    ever see a Masai warrior kill a lion with a spear. ITs effective but dangerous. 5-6 masai warriors carry cowhide shields and a masai spear. I have a few-the are made of a piece of iron rod, a wood handle in the middle and a long double edged blade that sort of looks like a roman gladiator's short sword that was stretched several feet.

    well what the Masai do is they sneak up on a lion and try to surround it. The lion will generally charge one of the warriors. HE plants the butt of his spear in the ground and falls back covering his vitals with the shield. Hopefully the lion will impale itself on the spear and the other guys will quickly stab it too

    yet have a few hundred pounds of mortally wounded lion on you is no picnic

    and these are sharp steel blades. not flint or obsidian.

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    Re: Are we better off than the prehistoric man?

    We're obviously better off then the prehistoric man.

    Prehistoria includes dinosaurs. Dinosaurs include velociraptors. Velociraptors include having one's stomach slashed open whilst being eaten alive.

    Modern era > Prehistoria

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