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    Re: Are you better off right now than 4 years ago?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    What kind of job do you want and what kind of job you don't want would you accept?
    Well, my degree is in Social and Political Studies w/Pre-Law Concentration with a double major in History. So, something in the legal field would be wonderful.

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    Re: Are you better off right now than 4 years ago?

    Should of had other qualifiers. I know someone who is not better off because there was a reorganization at his job. Record setting profits, in fact the best the company had ever done. Most recently, nearly doubling revenue thanks to a windfall opportunity. Everybody would need to work a little harder and longer but worth it. Despite this the higher ups figured the staff was overpaid so everybody got pay cuts. Actually, the unwritten policy is whenever there is a reorganization or new acquisition, the first task to to reduce expenses to the maximum level possible and compensation is typically the number one target. Not due to adverse economic conditions attributable to the Whitehouse's mismanagement of the economy and more to due with a take no prisoners management philosophy some associate with the Bain Capital model.
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    Re: Are you better off right now than 4 years ago?

    Gee, this is difficult to explain why; but, we are much better off. I was part of a RIF mostly due to a religion that took over our division. I never returned to work. But, it freed me up to do some stuff. I had time to sell some inherited C2 property before the approaching the top of the bubble myself. Realtors were telling me to expect $6.50 to $7.50 a sq. ft, I sold it myself for much more. A couple of years later I saw that the end of the housing bubble was coming. A few others, e.g. my realtor neighbor, saw it coming too. My wife took a job out of state, MI; and I remodeled the house and sold it within a few percent past peak in AZ. We bought from a distressed seller in the Grand Rapids MI area and the house has held its value and it has some very wonderful location. My wife retired a few years ago after knocking down a significant salary here in MI. We bought back in AZ for a winter home a couple of years ago for pennies, cash, on the dollar and it is now comps sell for about 25% more. A few months ago we bought another nice 7 year old home in AZ for cash; and, now it would sell for at least 20% more. Our investments have done OK, though we are working with a new financial advisor that invests mostly with options and new lawyers.

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    Re: Are you better off right now than 4 years ago?

    Financially? No. No, I am not.

    Personally, as a result of hard work? Absolutely.
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    Re: Are you better off right now than 4 years ago?

    I don't rate being better off as just a monetary thing. That said, I'm pretty much financially set for life, and I will be setting up my own business once everything is in order. I have a plan, which means I have a future.

    Four years ago, my friends were junkies, my family hated me, I had no real job, low income flow, and I was selling pot to expediently make ends meet. Back then, I would have said I'd be dead by now. So yes, my life is a hell of a lot better. Neither former President George W Bush, nor President Barack Obama had dick to do with my personal successes. I stopped thinking small, and began to look at the bigger picture. On top of that, luck and circumstance coupled with my own desires and understanding of my place and skills. The economy can crash tomorrow, and I'll still be alright.
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    Re: Are you better off right now than 4 years ago?

    Yet another partisan hack, biased thread from the king of said traits.
    No, we are not better off because freedom has shrunk even more under this President, we have intervened in yet another country (Libya), are still in one we shouldn't be (Afghan), and will probably end up on the ground in a new one (Syria). In addition, the economy has been stagnant for his entire presidency, the majority of the jobs "he has added" are low paying food service and retail jobs, and the debt is now the top national security risk of our nation. The bad part is, if the Dems had controlled Congress his entire administration it wouldn't be far fetched to assume that we could be approaching 18-20 trillion in debt right now.
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    Re: Are you better off right now than 4 years ago?

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    The bad part is, if the Dems had controlled Congress his entire administration it wouldn't be far fetched to assume that we could be approaching 18-20 trillion in debt right now.
    Actually, it would.

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    Re: Are you better off right now than 4 years ago?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hare View Post
    Actually, it would.
    Its simply math really. In the first 5 months of the Obama administration, we added 1 trillion to the debt. So, if we keep with that initial spending rate, what do we get? We get 8 trillion. He walked into 10 trillion in debt. So that would put us at approximately 18 trillion in debt. That's assuming that he would have maintained the spending rate he did. Who knows what he would have done had he seen the inevitable economic boost that pumping that much money into the economy would have produced. President Obama has stated numerous times he wants to spend more, would support another stimulus, and his budgets are an annual joke.
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    Re: Are you better off right now than 4 years ago?

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    Are you better off now than when obama took office during the peak of the bushian great recession when our economy was in freefall?


    Biased Poll, is Biased.


    No, I am not better off than 4 years ago.

    Four years ago gas cost less than $2 a gallon and I was getting at least 5 hours of overtime a week.

    Today gas costs over $3.50 a gallon... costing me around $45 a week to drive... and overtime is scarce as hen's teeth, and I've had ONE raise for a whopping .15c/hr. The cost of almost everything else is up too.

    My BIL got laid off and was out of work for 1.5 years, then had to take a job making 75% of his previous salary. My neice was laid off and is still out of work. I end up helping both even though I'm not making the money I was making 4 years ago either.

    The housing market is still pretty flat. I'm trying to sell some land I inherited and the only offer I got so far was laughably low. Good luck buying a house though, loans are really hard to obtain.

    Businesses and investors are scared to invest in growth industries, and are staring down the barrel of the remaining Obamacare provisions that take effect in the next few years and wondering how hard it is going to hit business and the economy.


    No, I'm not better off, or even as well off, as 4 yrs ago.

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    Re: Are you better off right now than 4 years ago?

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    Its simply math really. In the first 5 months of the Obama administration, we added 1 trillion to the debt. So, if we keep with that initial spending rate, what do we get? We get 8 trillion. He walked into 10 trillion in debt. So that would put us at approximately 18 trillion in debt. That's assuming that he would have maintained the spending rate he did. Who knows what he would have done had he seen the inevitable economic boost that pumping that much money into the economy would have produced. President Obama has stated numerous times he wants to spend more, would support another stimulus, and his budgets are an annual joke.
    Skewed numbers for several reasons, you're counting the ARRA as a one time, singular expenditure, when in fact it was riddled with tax credits, subsidies, and outright cuts not to be realized until businesses saw the need to expand, not to mention the gradual pace of the infrastructure projects contained within the bill. All in all the total deficit for the year 2009 was 1.4 trillion in total. That, in addition to the plunging revenues that accompanied the housing collapse, renders 2009 a inapproriate measure.

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