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    Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    A simple question.

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    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    NOBODY'S PAYING FOR ****ING SANDRA ****ING FLUKES ****ING CONTRACEPTION...

    HOLY JESUS.

    There's nothing wrong with mandating Medical Insurance Companies to pay for contraception the same way they would pay for any other basic drugs that are nessecary for people to have, some of these HMO's cover Viagra for gods sake, so why not contraceptive pills?

    Doing such a thing, expanding access to contraceptives is a massive net benefit to the economy as it reduces unwanted pregnancies, reduces the need for abortions which is a net positive for the medical insurance companies obviously abortion procedures cost more than a measly pill.

    This whole idea that everyone pays for Sandra Flukes Contraceptives is such a fallacy it's unbelievable.

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    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Heck Yeah. And by we, I mean insurance. Which is far cheaper than a live birth. It's much less pressure on my premiums for fewer births, fewer uninsured kids, and fewer welfare medical cases via no co-pay birth control then it is otherwise. SAVES ME MONEY. I'm down.

    Considering how motivated that girl is, she'll go far. Which means she'll pay lots of taxes. Having a kid disrupts that. Meaning as taxpayers, we'll get more out of her not having a kid early compared to her having a kid when she's ready and paying oodles into Treasury Coffers.

    Children born to parents, that 1) want them and 2) can provide for them turn out far better than children who aren't wanted and can't be provided for. Disagree? Watch 16 & Pregnant.

    How about the anti-abortion crowd own up? You don't give a **** about abortions. If you did, you'd be all for free contraceptive, full and proper sex ed and non-sex is evil culture. But you're not. Abortion is just a cover for your real beliefs.
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    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Let her pay for her own contraceptives. It's her responsibility, and nobody else's.
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    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Let her pay for her own contraceptives. It's her responsibility, and nobody else's.
    Well then everybody should pay for every medical drug and procedure out of their own pocket.

    After all it's their responsibility.

    Let's do away with HMO's, they're socialistic anyway.


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    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Well then everybody should pay for every medical drug and procedure out of their own pocket.

    After all it's their responsibility.

    Let's do away with HMO's, they're socialistic anyway.

    Let's also do away with all the benefits the military gets. Why should I pay for somebody's education, housing, medicines on top of the salary which my taxes already contribute to? If we adhered by the ridiculous definition conservatives have of 'socialism' we'd be a third world nation.
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    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Let her pay for her own contraceptives. It's her responsibility, and nobody else's.
    And this kids is why you don't drink the kool-aid. As Jetboogieman pointed out, the logic there is everyone should pay for their own costs entirely out of pocket. Meaning, brain surgery? Hope you saved up! Chemo? Hope you saved up! Cost sharing via insurance is clearly not acceptance as someone else is paying for your treatment.

    The obvious outcome to someone who bothered to examine his beliefs (aka, NOT Bob Blaylock) is that we'd have a society where a single medical instance would wipe people out. Even the rich could be gone with a single highly expensive surgery and medical stay. Essentially, Blaylock's logic is pushing a highly stratified class society where only the uber-rich can afford healthcare and everyone else is left in the dark. Insurance allows virtually everyone to get decent healthcare without going bankrupt. But that means they aren't paying their own costs.

    On top of that, we'd get more abortions. And we'd get more uninsured kids. And we'd get far less productive families who are now taking care of kids they can barely or not afford. Yay more welfare! How that fits the social conservative view, I don't get it, but their stances never made much logical sense to me anyways. Maybe because they never did bother to examine their beliefs?

    This is why I'm socially liberal, fiscally pragmatic.
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    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Let's also do away with all the benefits the military gets. Why should I pay for somebody's education, housing, medicines on top of the salary which my taxes already contribute to? If we adhered by the ridiculous definition conservatives have of 'socialism' we'd be a third world nation.
    Amusingly, Obama pushed for more premium payments for TRICARE users. Apparently the GOP didn't like that Obama was making Socialist Healthcare less Socialist. Less reliance upon taxpayers and more user fees? OH GOD!!! People being more responsible for their healthcare costs? We can't have that!
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    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by Meathead View Post
    A simple question.
    Do you know how health insurance works? That might be a good place to start before asking the wrong question.
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    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    I take back everything I said above.

    We shouldn't pay for Sandra Flukes Contraception.

    Meathead should.

    Where can I mail the bill to Meathead?

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