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    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by comedy4all View Post
    Start your own business, become a beach bum, buy your own health insurance; all choices that can alleviate the fascism of religious tyranny that having employer based insurance that does not cover contraception imposes (poor you). I think that you can live throw the imposition, as opposed to people that lived through real religious atrocities of the past.

    The business owner is god at the job.
    It is not your job it’s his/hers.
    The business owner is just the director of work.
    He cant have our self respect
    He cant run our lives
    He cant risk our lives
    He cant rip us off......

    IF he does not like it, then the workers can shut him down......with direct action and/or Fed and State law suits.
    Last edited by 274ina; 09-15-12 at 06:40 AM.

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    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    And the true colors come out. UHC is as much the nightmare as anything else, we're done here.
    Agian your ignorance is showing.

    Single payer is not UHC.

    1: gov pays private HC providers
    2: Gov pays salarys to Gov employees.

    Both cover all people in the nation unlike CEO care.

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    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by 274ina View Post
    The business owner is just the director of work.
    He cant have our self respect
    He cant run our lives
    He cant risk our lives
    He cant rip us off......

    IF he does not like it, then the workers can shut him down......with direct action and/or Fed and State law suits.
    The business owner does not want any of those things from you.

    All a business owner wants from you is to perform the actions that you have been employed to carry out. To that end the business owner can set the terms of employment that you must work under. If you don’t like them you can choose not to be employed there. If you do not live up to the terms of employment the employer can discontinue your employment (fire you) at any time they see fit, and replace you with ease.

    The person that employs you does not control your life, you do; maybe you should take some responsibility for your own life choices. If you want an insurance plan that covers contraception and your employer will not provide you with one, go pay for it yourself.

    Just like I would tell Sandra Fluke; no one owes you anything, if you want something go get it yourself.
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    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by 274ina View Post
    Agian your ignorance is showing.

    Single payer is not UHC.

    1: gov pays private HC providers
    2: Gov pays salarys to Gov employees.

    Both cover all people in the nation unlike CEO care.
    Wrong. Single payor is synonymous with UHC. It's a rebranding with the point being to have the government be the only payor. You have no knowledge of this subject beyond blogs and pamphlets and it's obvious. We're done here and I am not addressing you further on this.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by comedy4all View Post
    The business owner does not want any of those things from you.

    All a business owner wants from you is to perform the actions that you have been employed to carry out. To that end the business owner can set the terms of employment that you must work under. If you donít like them you can choose not to be employed there. If you do not live up to the terms of employment the employer can discontinue your employment (fire you) at any time they see fit, and replace you with ease.

    The person that employs you does not control your life, you do; maybe you should take some responsibility for your own life choices. If you want an insurance plan that covers contraception and your employer will not provide you with one, go pay for it yourself.

    Just like I would tell Sandra Fluke; no one owes you anything, if you want something go get it yourself.
    The history of labor relations proves you wrong.

    And no, I do have a right to negociate working conditions......its Fed law.

    And no, contraception is basic medical care and needs t o be covered for all. And its NON OF YOUR ******** buisness.

    An you WILL PAY for HC jsut like you WILL PAY for workers comp. because its the law.

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    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Wrong. Single payor is synonymous with UHC. It's a rebranding with the point being to have the government be the only payor. You have no knowledge of this subject beyond blogs and pamphlets and it's obvious. We're done here and I am not addressing you further on this.
    Ah, all you have is insults. When the difference is massive.

    btw, I have LIVED on countries with BOTH systems. It is what made me realize how screwed up USA was .........
    after never having HC for 15 years.

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    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by 274ina View Post
    Ah, all you have is insults. When the difference is massive.

    btw, I have LIVED on countries with BOTH systems. It is what made me realize how screwed up USA was .........
    after never having HC for 15 years.
    You called me uninformed about an industry I worked in, while demonstrating no actual understanding of it. I haven't insulted you, I have pointed out fact, but if you want to play games I refuse.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by 274ina View Post
    The history of labor relations proves you wrong.

    And no, I do have a right to negociate working conditions......its Fed law.

    And no, contraception is basic medical care and needs t o be covered for all. And its NON OF YOUR ******** buisness.

    An you WILL PAY for HC jsut like you WILL PAY for workers comp. because its the law.
    “The history of labor relations proves you wrong.”
    Proves me wrong on what?

    “And no, I do have a right to negotiate working conditions......its Fed law.”
    Any good business owner would provide a safe working environment. Other than that the owner can always say; NO!

    “And no, contraception is basic medical care and needs to be covered for all.”
    YES! All of those people out there that are dying from the lack of a condom are tragic. It’s just too bad that condoms and pills are not readily available in drug stores; OH WAIT! They are. Following the same reasoning; toilet paper is just as needed maybe even more needed. Should toilet paper be covered in your health insurance?

    ” And its NON OF YOUR ******** buisness.”
    This is a forum. It’s for an interchange of ideas. I think that you may have the wrong idea about forums.
    Calm down, breath, count to ten.
    I apologize for not thinking the same as you do.

    “An you WILL PAY for HC jsut like you WILL PAY for workers comp. because its the law.”
    Welcome to the USSR! Thank you Obama.
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    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    You called me uninformed about an industry I worked in, while demonstrating no actual understanding of it. I haven't insulted you, I have pointed out fact, but if you want to play games I refuse.
    To some people pointing out the facts IS an insult.
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    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by comedy4all View Post
    To some people pointing out the facts IS an insult.
    I see that. There may be a few things here or there that need improvement, but to tell me my industry background is not a substitute for the political arguments is not going to cut it.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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