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    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    What really hits me in this discussion is the abysmal ignorance that white right wing men like Limbaugh and others have about the female body, sex and their reproductive system.

    How do they ever expect to carry on the race with the terrible display of ignorance they continually show in this area? I guess thats why they want to disenfranchise so many non-white folks.
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    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by 274ina View Post
    If they can afford a $125 mill CEO and Jets, they can afford to provide a few pills.

    Their profits are now limited to 20% anyway........(and we should not have to pay them anything, insurance needs to be banned)
    Do you even know how those salaries are paid out? They are done with a smaller base salary, stock options cover most of the salary, and bonuses. Payouts on claims come from the risk pool, reinvestment, and reinsurance, not from total revenues, IOW they aren't the same money. Now, when the risk pool grows, the cash on hand shrinks(this is a mandatory minimum pool of capitol required to operate) guess what happens when the cash on hand shrinks, that's right it must be replaced.

    Tell you what, you tell ME how that COH is to be replaced since you are telling me how the industry I WORKED IN operates.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by 274ina View Post
    But I cant pay elsewhere, the monopoly still stands with the ACA. They also collude and rig prices legally. So the 2 choices any person has in a state is meaningless.
    With PPACA you don't have to pay... Remember? You were quite proud to remind us how poor you were and how little you would be paying.
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    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by 274ina View Post
    Sorry, your fantasy world of controlling others HC is about to endd..........by by pope monkey.

    and here is an example of an employer IMPOSING religion on employees ................

    "Friday, a District Court in Colorado granted a family business — the Newland family and their company, Hercules Industries — an injunction against the mandate, which conflicts with their Catholic beliefs. "

    You Pope supporters were saying somthing about Religious freedom?
    Why should a jew working at your HVAC work place have the Pope imposed on them for doing his job?
    Choice!

    He doesn’t have to work there. Under the affordable care act the employer has a choice too. He can provide his employees with health care that violates his religion or he can be penalized (oh sorry taxed) by the federal government.
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    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Do you even know how those salaries are paid out? They are done with a smaller base salary, stock options cover most of the salary, and bonuses. Payouts on claims come from the risk pool, reinvestment, and reinsurance, not from total revenues, IOW they aren't the same money. Now, when the risk pool grows, the cash on hand shrinks(this is a mandatory minimum pool of capitol required to operate) guess what happens when the cash on hand shrinks, that's right it must be replaced.

    Tell you what, you tell ME how that COH is to be replaced since you are telling me how the industry I WORKED IN operates.
    The ideal way to replace that cash is to eliminate the source. The paying health insurance person.

    See with single payer, all you know is irrelivant.....as is the $125 mil CEO and his jets.

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    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aberration View Post
    With PPACA you don't have to pay... Remember? You were quite proud to remind us how poor you were and how little you would be paying.
    I still pay for it. Gov subsidy was a GOP idea started with HR 3590.

    HR 3200, the original real reform, contained price control boards and no subsidies.

    Milllions will not quaify for the subsidies, less than $10k income, and will not get medicaid because of SCOTUS. They will have to move
    to a state that does ALLOW the Feds to cover them.

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    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by comedy4all View Post
    Choice!

    He doesn’t have to work there. Under the affordable care act the employer has a choice too. He can provide his employees with health care that violates his religion or he can be penalized (oh sorry taxed) by the federal government.
    And with all the employers imposing religion in a work place. Where will the excluded employee go? Opps. looks like there is NO CHOICE.

    only way to do it is ELIMINATE RELIGION in the workplace.

    The employer has a right to direct work. And nothing else. the employer has NO RIGHT at all in home issues, and religion and healthcare are it.

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    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by 274ina View Post
    And with all the employers imposing religion in a work place. Where will the excluded employee go? Opps. looks like there is NO CHOICE.

    only way to do it is ELIMINATE RELIGION in the workplace.

    The employer has a right to direct work. And nothing else. the employer has NO RIGHT at all in home issues, and religion and healthcare are it.
    Start your own business, become a beach bum, buy your own health insurance; all choices that can alleviate the fascism of religious tyranny that having employer based insurance that does not cover contraception imposes (poor you). I think that you can live throw the imposition, as opposed to people that lived through real religious atrocities of the past.

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    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by 274ina View Post
    The ideal way to replace that cash is to eliminate the source. The paying health insurance person.

    See with single payer, all you know is irrelivant.....as is the $125 mil CEO and his jets.
    And the true colors come out. UHC is as much the nightmare as anything else, we're done here.
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    Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by 274ina View Post
    I still pay for it. Gov subsidy was a GOP idea started with HR 3590.

    HR 3200, the original real reform, contained price control boards and no subsidies.

    Milllions will not quaify for the subsidies, less than $10k income, and will not get medicaid because of SCOTUS. They will have to move
    to a state that does ALLOW the Feds to cover them.
    No. You only pay for part of it. A very small part.
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