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    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by 274ina View Post
    $30 month is irrelivant.

    (allowing for modest profit, no extorsion)
    You truly don't know what you are talking about. Every single penny in an insurance pool makes a difference, it's the definition of a numbers business. I put out one of the more simple formulas earlier, go back and find it.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by 274ina View Post
    Yes it is HC. And the Dr is not involved in the decision to have a kid or not. Only the couple is. He just makes sure the pill will not have adverse effects.

    This comment exposes your lack of WHO IS IN CONTROL of their body.......answer is the PERSON is. Not the stupid Dr.......


    Your mind is contaminated by the USA HC system. I dont read any blog. I LIVED WITH REAL UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE. No greedy scum Dr's, no extorsion.......
    No, birth control is optional UNLESS a physician signs a prescription for one of two factors 1) Hormonal control for a small percentage of women who have horrendous imbalances during their period and 2) conditions such as endomitriosis which are relieved through use of birth control. They are small percentages of medically necessary, weighted into the risk pool, were already covered, and factored into premium. Optional birth control has none of that.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by 274ina View Post
    The catholics have no right to tell others what to do about HC.
    Agreed.

    And, I say this as a Catholic, we lost the moral high-ground after the inquisition.

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    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Really, and where did you get your information because that's not what I read? Instead, I read that there was an executive order that made the Hyde amendment apply to Obamacare which means no federal funding for abortions. Maybe you should back up your claim that Obamacare considers pregnancy a "disease" with a link or some credible evidence. Otherwise, I have no reason to take your hyperboli seriously.

    Here's mine....

    Hyde Amendment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Both sides of abortion issue quick to dismiss order - USATODAY.com

    All religious establishments, including the Catholic church are exempt from having insurance coverage for birth control pills. So where are you getting your information, comedy4all? From comic books? lol
    The daily caller
    Obamacare contraception mandate takes effect
    Published: 12:45 AM 08/01/2012
    Obamacare contraception mandate takes effect | The Daily Caller

    “The new regulations require all insurance companies to cover well-woman visits, gestational diabetes screenings, domestic and interpersonal violence counseling, FDA-approved contraception, breastfeeding supplies, HPV DNA testing, sexually transmitted infection counseling, and HIV testing without additional co-pays.”
    Without additional co-pays = free

    Wikipedia is not a reliable source of information because it can be changed by anyone. No reputable news organization would use it as a source, and no school professor will accept it as a source for an assignment.
    Planned Parenthood receives federal funds (our taxes). Planned Parenthood provides contraception and abortions. Thus the taxes that a catholic person would have to pay if they did not buy insurance would help contribute to things that violate their religious freedoms. There is no way to be certain that tax money that goes to planned parenthood or other such organizations does not make its way to paying for abortions. They just say “we won’t use it for that”. Remember the catholic religion considers contraception the same as abortion because it denies a child the right to life.

    Sandra Fluke was trying to get the insurance at a catholic university (not a church) to pay for her contraception. Catholics don’t just live in the church. So where are you getting your information, Moot? From the back of a tampon box? Lol
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    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Let her pay for her own contraceptives. It's her responsibility, and nobody else's.
    Then every elderly person currently in hospice care should be rolled out into the streets unless they have a credit card to cover the bill.

    And we should pull the plug on every premie incubator covered under medicaid.

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    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    She was speaking for other women who can't afford it. Thats her job.
    She is a student; she is not the advocate for slutty broads/dudes that don’t want to use condoms (the $3000 she was referring to was for buying berth control pills).
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    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    You truly don't know what you are talking about. Every single penny in an insurance pool makes a difference, it's the definition of a numbers business. I put out one of the more simple formulas earlier, go back and find it.
    If they can afford a $125 mill CEO and Jets, they can afford to provide a few pills.

    Their profits are now limited to 20% anyway........(and we should not have to pay them anything, insurance needs to be banned)

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    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    No, birth control is optional UNLESS a physician signs a prescription for one of two factors 1) Hormonal control for a small percentage of women who have horrendous imbalances during their period and 2) conditions such as endomitriosis which are relieved through use of birth control. They are small percentages of medically necessary, weighted into the risk pool, were already covered, and factored into premium. Optional birth control has none of that.
    Sorry, your fantasy world of controlling others HC is about to endd..........by by pope monkey.

    and here is an example of an employer IMPOSING religion on employees ................

    "Friday, a District Court in Colorado granted a family business — the Newland family and their company, Hercules Industries — an injunction against the mandate, which conflicts with their Catholic beliefs. "

    You Pope supporters were saying somthing about Religious freedom?
    Why should a jew working at your HVAC work place have the Pope imposed on them for doing his job?
    Last edited by 274ina; 09-14-12 at 05:06 PM.

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    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Then every elderly person currently in hospice care should be rolled out into the streets unless they have a credit card to cover the bill.

    And we should pull the plug on every premie incubator covered under medicaid.
    If those elderly or preemies want birth control they should have to pay for it themselves to. We are talking about birth control not a respirator or an incubator.
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    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

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