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    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Sorry, but we don't live in a theocracy and it was sexist to have an all male panel of bishops passing judgement on women's right to have control over their own bodies in the capitol of our country. They might as well have been spitting on the Constitution.
    to think I used to consider you a reasoned, thoughtful, and intelligent spokesman for your side. " It's spitting on the Constitution to listen to members of the Clergy on political questions." I wonder what the Reverend Martin Luther King Jr would have made of that.


    I disagree. The bishops were much, much more obnoxious to make birth control an issue considering they've been protecting pedophiles for decades, if not centuries.



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    A Strawman!!!


    Where do they get their moral authority to deny women birth control
    where in America are they seeking to deny women birth control?

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    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    to think I used to consider you a reasoned, thoughtful, and intelligent spokesman for your side. " It's spitting on the Constitution to listen to members of the Clergy on political questions." I wonder what the Reverend Martin Luther King Jr would have made of that.




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    A Strawman!!!

    where in America are they seeking to deny women birth control?

    Come now, cpwill did you forget your first amendment strawman? Where does it say that congress shall make laws respecting a religious establishment that discriminates against women?


    Hey, look cpwill, it's your strawman....


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    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Come now, cpwill did you forget your first amendment strawman? Where does it say that congress shall make laws respecting a religious establishment that discriminates against women?
    do you even know what it is you're talking about?

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    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Yes, it was the all male panel of Catholic bishops testifying at a congressional hearing on birth control and Republican chairman, Darrel Issa refused to allow Sandra Fluke to speak on behalf of women at that hearing. That is the first we heard of Sandra Fluke...and she was a legitimate witness......but it wasn't the first we heard of the Catholic bishops lobbying to ban birth control. So obviously this was an issue long before we ever heard of Sandra Fluke. But hey, heaven forbid women should have a say about their own bodies and healthcare and the laws that are being passed that effect their inherent rights and their very lives.
    They refused to let her speak because she was in no way shape or form an 'expert' and provided only a fictional anecdotal citation. Here we are, a year later, and idiots STILL didnt bother viewing her testimony or at least reading a manuscript where she stated clearly that SHE...at a catholic school was actually covered. Legitimate? In no way could she be considered a 'legitimate' anything by anyone. At least, not by anyone that wasnt already a blind myopic hack.

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    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I know that pregnancy is not a loss.
    That's why I try to quote "loss."
    Then you should know why the word "uncertain" does not apply to it in your definition of insurance.
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    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    ... not things you can pay for with change you find between the coushions of the couch.
    If, as you say, people can pay for it with change that you find between the cushions of your couch, it will not raise people's rates in any significant way.

    Therein lies the problem with the counter-arguments. People are simultaneously saying that the cost of BC is so low that it shouldn't necessitate being covered by insurance AND that covering it by insurance will significantly raise premiums. which is unfair.

    Both statements cannot possibly be true at the same time.
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    Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    If, as you say, people can pay for it with change that you find between the cushions of your couch, it will not raise people's rates in any significant way.

    Therein lies the problem with the counter-arguments. People are simultaneously saying that the cost of BC is so low that it shouldn't necessitate being covered by insurance AND that covering it by insurance will significantly raise premiums. which is unfair.

    Both statements cannot possibly be true at the same time.
    The difference of course being the medically Needed oral contraceptives (that are usually NOT prescribed for 'birth control' needs but for hormone issues, skin issues, potential cyst concerns, etc) and a basic condom which is all that is needed for "birth control".

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    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    The difference of course being the medically Needed oral contraceptives (that are usually NOT prescribed for 'birth control' needs but for hormone issues, skin issues, potential cyst concerns, etc) and a basic condom which is all that is needed for "birth control".
    The medically needed oral contraceptives tend to be more expensive, but then again they are medically needed and should absolutely be covered by insurance.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    do you even know what it is you're talking about?
    More than you do, apparently.

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    Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    The medically needed oral contraceptives tend to be more expensive, but then again they are medically needed and should absolutely be covered by insurance.
    And they are. Fluke stated that. It's a non issue.

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