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    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Her insurance companies should.

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    Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by shiang View Post
    Her insurance companies should.
    Her insurance company did.

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    Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dion View Post
    What Jetboogieman said! Fact.
    Fact: her insurance company was already paying for her contraceptives. It has never been in question. Her doctor prescribed them, she recieved them and her insurance paid for them. See why this is all bs?

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    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Fact: her insurance company was already paying for her contraceptives. It has never been in question. Her doctor prescribed them, she recieved them and her insurance paid for them. See why this is all bs?

    The BS was the thread. Read jetboogiemans post.

    The issue was not really about Sandra and we all know this about her insurance.

    The current issue being discussed was .. if an insurance company covers Rx for a client do they have a right to decide not to cover BC ...some companies excluded this even if they paid for viagra, cosmetic Rx etc and it was about the legislation on BC.

    Complex topic and I do not much time at the moment and am signing off. The Sandra OP was kind of a deflection form what could have been a very good discussion supporting either position on BC coverage.

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    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dion View Post
    The BS was the thread. Read jetboogiemans post.

    The issue was not really about Sandra and we all know this about her insurance.

    The current issue being discussed was .. if an insurance company covers Rx for a client do they have a right to decide not to cover BC ...some companies excluded this even if they paid for viagra, cosmetic Rx etc and it was about the legislation on BC.

    Complex topic and I do not much time at the moment and am signing off. The Sandra OP was kind of a deflection form what could have been a very good discussion supporting either position on BC coverage.
    I dont know of too many insurance companies that deny medically indicated birth control and that was NEVER the issue where Ms Fluke was concerned. The Fluke fluke was a made up bull**** argument meant to cloud the fact that the Obama administration was attempting to force the Catholic church to accept their order to provide birth control. Everything else is...bull****.

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    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I dont know of too many insurance companies that deny medically indicated birth control and that was NEVER the issue where Ms Fluke was concerned. The Fluke fluke was a made up bull**** argument meant to cloud the fact that the Obama administration was attempting to force the Catholic church to accept their order to provide birth control. Everything else is...bull****.
    Yes, it was the all male panel of Catholic bishops testifying at a congressional hearing on birth control and Republican chairman, Darrel Issa refused to allow Sandra Fluke to speak on behalf of women at that hearing. That is the first we heard of Sandra Fluke...and she was a legitimate witness......but it wasn't the first we heard of the Catholic bishops lobbying to ban birth control. So obviously this was an issue long before we ever heard of Sandra Fluke. But hey, heaven forbid women should have a say about their own bodies and healthcare and the laws that are being passed that effect their inherent rights and their very lives.

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    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Yes, it was the all male panel of Catholic bishops testifying at a congressional hearing on birth control and Republican chairman, Darrel Issa refused to allow Sandra Fluke to speak on behalf of women at that hearing. That is the first we heard of Sandra Fluke...and she was a legitimate witness......but it wasn't the first we heard of the Catholic bishops lobbying to ban birth control. So obviously this was an issue long before we ever heard of Sandra Fluke. But hey, heaven forbid women should have a say about their own bodies and healthcare and the laws that are being passed that effect their inherent rights and their very lives.
    .....there aren't any female Catholic bishops. Naturally a panel of them would be all male. Women were represented on the next panel, which unfortunately began to speak after some of the Democrat congresscritteresses sprinted away from their job to get in front of a television camera and shriek about how women weren't being represented.


    this isn't an issue of womens' health. No one is trying to take away birth control, or argue that women should be banned restricted or in any way limited from getting it. What is at issue is whether or not they have the right to force others to purchase it for them even in direct contravention of those others religious faith.

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    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    .....there aren't any female Catholic bishops. Naturally a panel of them would be all male.
    But there are female nuns so no, it didn't "naturally" have to be all male.

    Women were represented on the next panel, which unfortunately began to speak after some of the Democrat congresscritteresses sprinted away from their job to get in front of a television camera and shriek about how women weren't being represented.
    And still my point remains, this issue on birth control wasn't concocted nor did it begin with Sandra Fluke.

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    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    But there are female nuns so no, it didn't "naturally" have to be all male.
    The panel was of Bishops, as they are the ones authorized to speak on doctrine and lead the Church. Had the panel been of Catholics or even Catholic laity, then you would be correct.

    Good night. This is like complaining that a panel of the Joint Chiefs of Staff failed to represent union members.

    And still my point remains, this issue on birth control wasn't concocted nor did it begin with Sandra Fluke.
    And I would agree. Sandra Fluke is just the face of the particularly obnoxious claim that feminist activism has the right to trump the First Amendment.

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    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    The panel was of Bishops, as they are the ones authorized to speak on doctrine and lead the Church. Had the panel been of Catholics or even Catholic laity, then you would be correct.

    Good night. This is like complaining that a panel of the Joint Chiefs of Staff failed to represent union members.
    Sorry, but we don't live in a theocracy and it was sexist to have an all male panel of bishops passing judgement on women's right to have control over their own bodies in the capitol of our country. They might as well have been spitting on the Constitution.



    And I would agree. Sandra Fluke is just the face of the particularly obnoxious claim that feminist activism has the right to trump the First Amendment.
    I disagree. The bishops were much, much more obnoxious to make birth control an issue considering they've been protecting pedophiles for decades, if not centuries. Where do they get their moral authority to deny women birth control that aren't even of their faith, when they have ruined thousands of their own practioners lives and families with their hypocritical, mysogenistic, pro-pedophilia dogma? Could it possibly be the bishops are making a stink about birth control to take the focus off their own dirty deeds? Absolutely.

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