View Poll Results: Should we pay for Sandra Fluke's birth control?

Voters
78. You may not vote on this poll
  • Yes

    28 35.90%
  • No

    50 64.10%
Page 20 of 82 FirstFirst ... 1018192021223070 ... LastLast
Results 191 to 200 of 811

Thread: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

  1. #191
    Tavern Bartender
    Pussy Grabbin' Beaver
    Middleground's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Canada's Capital
    Last Seen
    Today @ 07:33 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    22,449
    Blog Entries
    1

    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Hehe- you noticed.

    It's hard not to! Mainly because you're so consistant in your views.
    “No men are anywhere, and I’m allowed to go in, because I’m the owner of the pageant and therefore I’m inspecting it,” Trump said... “‘Is everyone OK’? You know, they’re standing there with no clothes. ‘Is everybody OK?’ And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.”

  2. #192
    Filmmaker Lawyer Patriot
    Harshaw's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Last Seen
    Today @ 10:45 AM
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    29,500

    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    No one, that I am aware of, wishes to deny women their birth control. The issue is whether or not it is the responsibility of the taxpayer, to pay for birth control for all women. I personally think it is the responsibility of the woman to pay for her own.
    This is, of course, an eminently reasonable position to take.
    “Offing those rich pigs with their own forks and knives, and then eating a meal in the same room, far out! The Weathermen dig Charles Manson.”-- Bernadine Dohrn

  3. #193
    Sage
    Fletch's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Mentor Ohio
    Last Seen
    12-07-17 @ 07:30 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    15,266

    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Did you miss this part?:

    Birth control helps regulate monthly periods and reduces it's many, many, many side effects.

    Sorry, I only copied it 10 times. I thought that would make a strong point, but alas, I was wrong.

    Hey, did you know that birth control helps regulate monthly periods and reduces it's many, many, many side effects? It's true...
    Rewriting the same thing over and over doesn't make it either profound or relevant. There are many things that could be considered "good" in their own right, but that does not mean that the state should mandate that all people be compelled to achieve that particular good.

    Your post assumes that the state has the authority to impose a collective good at the expense of promoting the individual good. That is the principle of tyranny not of a free society.

  4. #194
    Sage
    Cephus's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    CA
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 08:51 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Conservative
    Posts
    29,749

    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Bad poll. We are not paying for anything. An insurance company is. They have to pay for all sorts of medical and voluntary things because people pay them to do so. Contraception is no different.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

    Blog me! YouTube me! VidMe me!

  5. #195
    Tavern Bartender
    Pussy Grabbin' Beaver
    Middleground's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Canada's Capital
    Last Seen
    Today @ 07:33 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    22,449
    Blog Entries
    1

    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Rewriting the same thing over and over doesn't make it either profound or relevant. There are many things that could be considered "good" in their own right, but that does not mean that the state should mandate that all people be compelled to achieve that particular good.
    I wish it didn't have to come to that. But unfortunately, some here cannot think outside of the box and it's much easier to pull a Rush and think that all those women who want to go on the pill are nothing but a bunch of sluts.

    ur post assumes that the state has the authority to impose a collective good at the expense of promoting the individual good. That is the principle of tyranny not of a free society.
    So basically, like Lizzie, you have issue with being forced to "share the expense" of any drug, period. ('scuse the play on words)
    If that is the case, then you certainly are Libetarian.
    “No men are anywhere, and I’m allowed to go in, because I’m the owner of the pageant and therefore I’m inspecting it,” Trump said... “‘Is everyone OK’? You know, they’re standing there with no clothes. ‘Is everybody OK?’ And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.”

  6. #196
    Filmmaker Lawyer Patriot
    Harshaw's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Last Seen
    Today @ 10:45 AM
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    29,500

    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Bad poll. We are not paying for anything. An insurance company is. They have to pay for all sorts of medical and voluntary things because people pay them to do so. Contraception is no different.
    If it's in the policy, then so be it. Requiring it to be in the policy isn't because people pay them, it's because the government forces them.
    “Offing those rich pigs with their own forks and knives, and then eating a meal in the same room, far out! The Weathermen dig Charles Manson.”-- Bernadine Dohrn

  7. #197
    Educator Schutzengel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    Florida, USA
    Last Seen
    04-20-13 @ 11:33 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    719

    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    No, but it sure looks like you are, schutz.


    I did and they said their identity was just as inalieanble as their body which was created by God.

    Moot... I was announcing to you that I was playfully trolling I did not mean for you to actually take what I was saying in that instance seriously... I think you would be surprized by how much we actually agree.... So far I think we only disagree on abortion, and only to a certain extent.
    History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or timid. - Ike

    Tea is better for you than Kool-Aid.

  8. #198
    Sage

    Join Date
    May 2011
    Last Seen
    Today @ 02:05 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    8,180

    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    In theory/principle, no, contraception should not be made no-cost.

    But on the list of all the other health care expenditures that are made to be no-cost to the consumer, contraception would be the last one I'd strike. Hell for known drug addicts in their teens, 20s, 30s and 40s, it should be mandatory. And so on and so forth with thoughts like that. I'm all about reproductive freedom and individual liberty in theory/principle, but pragmatism defeats theory on this issue, in that I believe the more ****-ups are prevented from reproducing, the better. We don't need all the world's ****-ups to proliferate a new generation of ****-ups, at least not until we stop entitling them to all their basic needs.

  9. #199
    Electrician
    Bob Blaylock's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    North 38°28′ West 121°26′
    Last Seen
    Today @ 10:31 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    13,745

    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    … You take actions and they have results. Deal with life. Is life really so cruel you people really can't deal with the results of your actions? There is certain amount of weakness in that which is also not on me. If you need parents than don't leave home. …
    Of course, by the time one reaches Ms. Fluke's age, one ought not be in need of parents. Thirty years of age ought to be considered to be very solidly into adulthood—old enough to take responsibility for one's own needs and wants, and even old enough to appropriately be a parent oneself.
    The five great lies of the Left Wrong:
    We can be Godless and free. • “Social justice” through forced redistribution of wealth. • Silencing religious opinions counts as “diversity”. • Freedom without moral and personal responsibility. • Civilization can survive the intentional undermining of the family.

  10. #200
    Sage
    Cephus's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    CA
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 08:51 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Conservative
    Posts
    29,749

    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    If it's in the policy, then so be it. Requiring it to be in the policy isn't because people pay them, it's because the government forces them.
    The government forces them to pay for lots of things. So what? This is health insurance, it's a health product.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

    Blog me! YouTube me! VidMe me!

Page 20 of 82 FirstFirst ... 1018192021223070 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •