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    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I don't know Sandra Fluke, but I'd rather pay for her birth control than pay for her unwanted children or her abortion.
    I would rather her want the children that she has; barring that, I would rather pay for her unwanted children. Wanna jack up my tax rates to do so? I will gladly pay a big chunk of what I earn to ensure that all children are cared for properly when their parents don't care anymore.
    The morality of abortion is not a religious belief, any more than the morality of slavery, apartheid, rape, larceny, murder or arson is a religious belief. These are norms of the natural law of mankind and can be legislated even in a completely religionless society.

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    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChunkySalsa View Post
    Action: don't pay for contraception
    Result: more babies are born and increase the tax burden
    well that strikes me as unlikely. it seems more like

    ACTION: Catholic insurance refuses to pay for contraception
    RESULT: Sandra Fluke has to go to one of the approximately zillion places where you can get condoms free or for less than the price of a cup of coffee.

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    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    well that strikes me as unlikely. it seems more like

    ACTION: Catholic insurance refuses to pay for contraception
    RESULT: Sandra Fluke has to go to one of the approximately zillion places where you can get condoms free or for less than the price of a cup of coffee.
    Well, this is true. Everyone is always singing the praises of Planned Parenthood. They should start handing out birth control to these women for free. Or maybe they already do; I don't really know.

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    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Agreed, but that does not mean that we have the right to force others to chip in against their will.
    I completely understand your point, but if we don't help pay for her BC, we WILL be paying for her children when they are getting public assistance, and that costs a helluva lot more than any BC pills or condoms.

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    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Gender is inalienable because you do not get to chose your sex when you are born. It is by definition a pre-existing condition. Hysterectomys do not change a woman's sex anymore than a vasectomy changes a mans.

    Soon there will be a birth control pill for men and I think health insurance should cover that as well. Seeing if men would take it would make for an interesting thread, too.
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    You must be messing here. How can you believe in innate rights and think these things should be proved by insurance companies by the force of government? It really makes no sense to someone that actually DOES understand it.

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    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChunkySalsa View Post
    Action: don't pay for contraception
    Result: more babies are born and increase the tax burden
    I have a solution for that problem, but you won't like it.

    Or you know, they can go to places that CPwill is talking about :P

    Like I said, instead of wanting government to be there for people, YOU be there for people. Stop acting like you care when you don't care.

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    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    well that strikes me as unlikely. it seems more like

    ACTION: Catholic insurance refuses to pay for contraception
    RESULT: Sandra Fluke has to go to one of the approximately zillion places where you can get condoms free or for less than the price of a cup of coffee.
    Strange to see you're ok wagering our tax dollars against the "unlikely" chance that not every woman who would otherwise be taking BC pills will instead go out and get condoms. I had you pegged for a "reducing taxes is more important than maximizing the negative consequences of actions I disapprove" kind of guy.

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    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I have a solution for that problem, but you won't like it.
    Yeah and I'm sure 90% of the voters would side with me. So let's stop talking about your fantasy America and get back to discussing reality.

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    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckBerry View Post
    I would rather her want the children that she has; barring that, I would rather pay for her unwanted children. Wanna jack up my tax rates to do so? I will gladly pay a big chunk of what I earn to ensure that all children are cared for properly when their parents don't care anymore.
    Why would you give that money to government? Why not help them yourself with that money? It makes more sense.
    Last edited by Henrin; 09-04-12 at 09:30 AM.

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    Re: Should We Pay for Sandra Fluke's Contraception?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChunkySalsa View Post
    Yeah and I'm sure 90% of the voters would side with me. So let's stop talking about your fantasy America and get back to discussing reality.
    Well I'm not going to agree with you to save something I do not like. Get a new argument that I care about.

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