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    Would you favor a revamped Civilian Conservation Corps

    That Is the question. I think it would be a good investment if carefully planned to accomolish useful work. It would kick in any time overall unemployment exceeded six percent or any time unemployment exceeded ten percent for any work segment such as youth unemployment or minority unemployment. I think the more people who become job creators by earning spendable money from useful work the better off we all are.

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    Re: Would you favor a revamped Civilian Conservation Corps

    Quote Originally Posted by listener View Post
    That Is the question. I think it would be a good investment if carefully planned to accomolish useful work. It would kick in any time overall unemployment exceeded six percent or any time unemployment exceeded ten percent for any work segment such as youth unemployment or minority unemployment. I think the more people who become job creators by earning spendable money from useful work the better off we all are.
    I would consider it, under specific conditions, and with specific guidelines and wage structure. Those conditions would be that it would not carry permanent government benefits in the form of retirement and pensions, except for social security and medicare, just as private enterprise is required to make deductions for, and that it would not be considered a permanent government-owned "corporation".

    Your poll really needs a *maybe* option, or *depends* option, because there are many considerations to make in an endeavor such as this one.
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    Re: Would you favor a revamped Civilian Conservation Corps

    Quote Originally Posted by listener View Post
    That Is the question. I think it would be a good investment if carefully planned to accomolish useful work. It would kick in any time overall unemployment exceeded six percent or any time unemployment exceeded ten percent for any work segment such as youth unemployment or minority unemployment. I think the more people who become job creators by earning spendable money from useful work the better off we all are.
    It might be useful to include to a link explaining what the Civilian Conservation Corps was.

    Civilian Conservation Corps - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Re: Would you favor a revamped Civilian Conservation Corps

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    That's more my speed. It would certainly produce jobs more effectively than the current policy of overpaying private sector entities for marginal services, and then wait for them to share the wealth generously.
    Last edited by Morality Games; 09-03-12 at 05:37 PM.
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    Re: Would you favor a revamped Civilian Conservation Corps

    As a replacement for Welfare, sure.

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    Re: Would you favor a revamped Civilian Conservation Corps

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    As a replacement for Welfare, sure.
    'Replacement' is a strong word. Partial substitution is a more effective application.
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    Re: Would you favor a revamped Civilian Conservation Corps

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    'Replacement' is a strong word. Partial substitution is a more effective application.
    NO, replacement. Why should the government pay workers go do jobs when it is already paying millions to sit and do nothing. We already pay them, lets get some work out of them. It would be highly unfair to require some to perform labor but let others still get paid for nothing. With millions of people available to work, and we are going to pay them anyways, we wouldn't need to give them much in the way of heavy machinery, shovels, hammers, wheel barrows, picks, axes, tow harnesses. Put all of them to work, not just a few.

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    Re: Would you favor a revamped Civilian Conservation Corps

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    NO, replacement. Why should the government pay workers go do jobs when it is already paying millions to sit and do nothing. We already pay them, lets get some work out of them. It would be highly unfair to require some to perform labor but let others still get paid for nothing. With millions of people available to work, and we are going to pay them anyways, we wouldn't need to give them much in the way of heavy machinery, shovels, hammers, wheel barrows, picks, axes, tow harnesses. Put all of them to work, not just a few.
    Lots of reasons. For one, welfare keeps skilled laborers from sinking into poverty and becoming a risk factor for social unrest and economic decay. There's no reason for a software engineer to become a manual laborer when he's between jobs, as he can serve himself and the rest of society better in the private sector.

    However, if the software engineer sinks into poverty, then, for example, he won't be able to negotiate with the banks and companies involved with acquiring a mortgage a home in the part of the country where the next new position in his industry becomes available. Poverty kills good credit first.

    You can say "he can work in the work relief program until he finds a new job", but that sort of job is a commitment. You can't have people continually leaving the project to return to skilled labor in the private sector, otherwise the unskilled labor drags on forever and produces nothing.

    That's why these programs targeted directionless young men for the most part. They have no families, careers, or commitments to distract them from the work for an indefinite period of time.

    In short, they exist for a specific type of person.

    Welfare also exists for specific types of person.
    Last edited by Morality Games; 09-03-12 at 06:13 PM.
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    Re: Would you favor a revamped Civilian Conservation Corps

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    As a replacement for Welfare, sure.
    Or as a replacement for unemployment, or maybe that's what you were referring to- I couldn't tell for sure, but definitely substitute it for unemployment bennies.
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