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    Re: Would you favor a revamped Civilian Conservation Corps

    Quote Originally Posted by listener View Post
    That Is the question. I think it would be a good investment if carefully planned to accomolish useful work. It would kick in any time overall unemployment exceeded six percent or any time unemployment exceeded ten percent for any work segment such as youth unemployment or minority unemployment. I think the more people who become job creators by earning spendable money from useful work the better off we all are.
    It might be a good idea, but I don' see it as being legal or appropriate at the federal level. I might support such a program in my state though.

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    Re: Would you favor a revamped Civilian Conservation Corps

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    It might be a good idea, but I don' see it as being legal or appropriate at the federal level. I might support such a program in my state though.
    I'm not sure about the technical legality of it, but it sure as hell beats paying so many people to sit at home, putting off even looking for work. I've heard story after story of people turning down jobs that they were qualified for, "until their unemployment runs out".
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    Re: Would you favor a revamped Civilian Conservation Corps

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    I'm not sure about the technical legality of it, but it sure as hell beats paying so many people to sit at home, putting off even looking for work. I've heard story after story of people turning down jobs that they were qualified for, "until their unemployment runs out".
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    Re: Would you favor a revamped Civilian Conservation Corps

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    I'm not sure about the technical legality of it, but it sure as hell beats paying so many people to sit at home, putting off even looking for work. I've heard story after story of people turning down jobs that they were qualified for, "until their unemployment runs out".
    But lizzie, I don't see paying people to sit at home as legal or appropriate at the federal level either.

    States, of course can establish whatever programs they wish to deal with the health and welfare of their citizens.

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    Re: Would you favor a revamped Civilian Conservation Corps

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    But lizzie, I don't see paying people to sit at home as legal or appropriate at the federal level either.

    States, of course can establish whatever programs they wish to deal with the health and welfare of their citizens.
    You know that I don't either, but you and I both know that this isn't going to change, at least not anytime in the near future.
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    Re: Would you favor a revamped Civilian Conservation Corps

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    But lizzie, I don't see paying people to sit at home as legal or appropriate at the federal level either.

    States, of course can establish whatever programs they wish to deal with the health and welfare of their citizens.
    Luckily there's no reason to feel uneasy about such things as the Supreme Court is constitutionally charged with deciding the constitutionality of such things.
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    Re: Would you favor a revamped Civilian Conservation Corps

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Or as a replacement for unemployment, or maybe that's what you were referring to- I couldn't tell for sure, but definitely substitute it for unemployment bennies.
    I was referring to Welfare, from the description MG put, that sounds like unemployment. Two different things.

    Maybe not everywhere anymore, but Texas, Louisiana, and Oklahoma I know didn't take the bailout (reinvestment and employment act) money because it would change the unemployment insurance programs. These states, at least, to qualify for unemployment, you have to have a job that pays into unemployment insurance, not all jobs do. Part of accepting that money was states that took it had to provide unemployment for everyone, regardless of previous payment into unemployment insurance and it required states to pay unemployment to people moving from out of state looking for work, again, they never paid into the states unemployment insurance. So these states, having very low unemployment at the time (less than half the unemployment rate of Cali. and some other states) told Obama to stick it.

    I guess in some states that took the money and made the changes, there is no real difference between unemployment and welfare, here there definitely is.

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    Re: Would you favor a revamped Civilian Conservation Corps

    No, but only because I'd rather see the WPA brought back and expanded. I'd rather see anyone who draws a government check, be it welfare or unemployment, be required to do some meaningful work in order to receive it. Of course, those not physically or mentally able to work would be exceptions to the rule.
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    Re: Would you favor a revamped Civilian Conservation Corps

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    It might be a good idea, but I don' see it as being legal or appropriate at the federal level. I might support such a program in my state though.
    I voted no because I don't think the federal needs to assume any more extra constitutional powers, if anything we need to shrink it from it's present state. I would have no problem with states wanting to create that type of program, it's well within their rights and delegated powers. It does get quirky regarding federal interstates, but the states could be reimbursed for work done by their corps.
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    Re: Would you favor a revamped Civilian Conservation Corps

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    Luckily there's no reason to feel uneasy about such things as the Supreme Court is constitutionally charged with deciding the constitutionality of such things.
    I am simply explaining what I'd vote for and what I'd oppose, along with my reasons. The thread is asking our opinion, is it not? I certainly don't claim to have any power to enforce the constitution, if that's what you think.

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