All Obama has to do is take a stand on a few issues. We all know Romney won't do that. Romney will come out looking like someone with no opinions. He'll be wishy washy like he's been for the entire campaign. He stutters out a few Fox News talking points sometimes, but never takes a real stance.
All Obama has to do is take a stand on a few issues. We all know Romney won't do that. Romney will come out looking like someone with no opinions. He'll be wishy washy like he's been for the entire campaign. He stutters out a few Fox News talking points sometimes, but never takes a real stance.
Like he did on the Janesville GM plant? Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me...
Seems unfair to disregard a politician for one thing he said that didn't happen, especially when he wasn't even elected yet, but you still support Romney and we all know he hasn't achieved all his promises or stuck to the same positions either.
It's called a campaign promise, and a politician should expect to be challenged on those he hasn't kept. Now in Obama's case, what campaign promises has he kept besides declaring war on the coal industry and raising energy prices?
You can make anything 'true' if you ignore what was actually said. See the spinning top picture for you in a different thread. It applies equally here.
But the fact is that plant closed before Obama was sworn in as President.
1. On February 13, 2008 Obama said in Janesville : “I believe that if our government is there to support you, and give you the assistance you need to re-tool and make this transition, that this plant will be here for another hundred years.”
2. In June 2008 GM announced that the Janesville plant would stop production of medium-duty trucks by the end of 2009, and stop production of large SUVs in 2010 or sooner.
3. In October 2008 Obama doubled down on his promise to keep Janesville plant open: “As president, I will lead an effort to retool plants like the GM facility in Janesville so we can build the fuel-efficient cars of tomorrow and create good-paying jobs in Wisconsin and all across America.”
4. In December 2008 GM idled production of GM SUVs at the Janesville plant. Medium-duty truck assembly continued.
5. In April 2009, four months after Obama was inaugurated, GM idled production of medium-duty trucks.
6. In September 2011, more than two years after Obama was inaugurated, GM reiterates that Janesville plant is on “stand by status.” Auto industry observer David Cole, tells the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel it would be premature to say the Janesville plant will never reopen.
6. Today the GM facility in Janesville still has not been retooled “so we can build the fuel-efficient cars of tomorrow and create good-paying jobs,” as Obama promised.
Hey, look at #5. Guess you are 100% incorrect, again.
Fair enough, whats your source?
Workers at the factory built about 95,600 GM SUVs -- Chevrolet Tahoes and Suburbans and GMC Yukons and Yukon XLs --in 2008 and 2,400 Isuzu trucks. The plant made 1,400 of the Isuzu models in 2009.
From YOUR source:
Remind me again WHEN that plant closed...
The plant Ryan referenced, which he also brought up at an event earlier this month, made its last GM automobile in December 2008 while President George W. Bush was still in office. The announcement to close the Janesville plant came in June of 2008, after then-candidate Obama spoke there, and the initial projected date for its closing was 2010, according to an AP article from the time.
The plant remained open for a few months in 2009 to complete orders on Isuzu vehicles, a company with which GM had a partnership.
So when YOUR source that YOU offer says "The plant remained open for a few months in 2009 to complete orders on Isuzu vehicles, a company with which GM had a partnership. you STILL want to remain on the "OH yeah, they closed in 2008"?
Would appear the cool-aid is spiked...
By December 2008, when President George W. Bush authorized nearly $14 billion in loans to General Motors and Chrysler, both of which were near financial collapse, GM had already warned it might close the Janesville plant because of sagging sport-utility vehicle sales. The plant was effectively shut down on Dec. 23, 2008, when GM ceased production of SUVs there and laid off 1,200 workers. (Several dozen workers stayed on another four months to finish an order of small- to medium-duty trucks for Isuzu Motors.)
I consider 1200 workers laid off, the main assembly lines shut down, but 57 workers remaining behind to finish a few last orders as closed. Yes.